Unreasonable attacks

[french frank]

....probably not is the easy answer....only if he ceases being Education Sec and in Cabinet....

Your post gave me a bit of a shock, eighth. I didn't remember saying that!

[gurnemanz]

Since anything Gove-related (Govish? Govesque? Govesome?) seems to be admissible here, may I register my annoyance at constantly being told on the morning news what somebody is going to say later that day. Yesterday the i told me that at some point in time the slithy Gove was due to attack the even more slithy Milliband.

First let them say it, then report it, (if you must.)

[Nick Armstrong]

my annoyance at constantly being told on the morning news what somebody is going to say later that day. ... First let them say it, then report it, (if you must.)

I couldn't agree more. A significant reason why I lend less and less of an ear to 'broadcast news' - all to often, it seems more akin to clairvoyance (in reality, journalists merely parroting press statements 'announcing' future events)

[edashtav]

I couldn't agree more. A significant reason why I lend less and less of an ear to 'broadcast news' - all to often, it seems more akin to clairvoyance (in reality, journalists merely parroting press statements 'announcing' future events)

You're both "spot on". In the old days some of us "reel to reel" fanatics used to suffer from "pre-echo": a faint whisper would announce Bruckner's coming phrase during one of his "pregnant" silences. It was damned annoying. Digital technology has ridden to our rescue.
These pre-announcements. are not news and the BBC ought to root them out, ruthlessly.

[french frank]

But, as Caliban suggested, there is a reason - the press release is sent out to the media before the event, in the hope of good coverage. The Meenister, however, will not make his statement until after the paper has gone to press (or after the news broadcast). So, disaster of disasters, the evening papers or other broadcasters whose news goes out later WILL GET THE STORY FIRST. Unthinkable, since 'yesterday's news' is not news.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

I have no idea what this thread is about....

For once, we are in agreement, Mr Pee. Reference to "#342" is lost on me ...

[french frank]

For once, we are in agreement, Mr Pee. Reference to "#342" is lost on me ...

As I said, even in context I didn't understand what that meant. The other bit seems as plain as a pikestaff to me.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

As an unashamed Gove attacker, I often wonder whether anyone will come to his defence.

[Mr Pee]

As I said, even in context I didn't understand what that meant. The other bit seems as plain as a pikestaff to me.

Could you then please enlighten the rest of us? And perhaps change the thread title to something a little less vague?

[french frank]

Could you then please enlighten the rest of us? And perhaps change the thread title to something a little less vague?

I'm not sure how many are included in 'the rest of us', but you are clearly doing them all a favour in seeking clarification.

What is is about the OP's question "can we have fewer posts attacking Michael Gove with no reason?" you would like to have explained? What it means? Why it was posted? Or something else?

[An_Inspector_Calls]

I see someone's playing silly buggers. First post modified to make sense.

[An_Inspector_Calls]

As I said, even in context I didn't understand what that meant. The other bit seems as plain as a pikestaff to me.

#342 was in fact a simple reply to #33 of what is Mr Pee's split-off thread. It's quite straightforward. You probably didn't have time to consider it as you framed #2.

[french frank]

#342 was in fact a simple reply to #33 of what is Mr Pee's split-off thread. It's quite straightforward. You probably didn't have time to consider it as you framed #2.

Then I can answer. If a post purports to be about a musical issue about Tchaikovsky (on the grounds of being 'what Radio 3 does') then it seems to me logical to put it on a musical board; the previous one concerning Russian state attitudes to homosexuality having been on Platform 3 (having no music relevance, as I recall, though it was also more of a 'current affair').

Your mention of Mr Gove was a complete red herring which threatened to derail the topic even further. I think it highly likely that a teacher would have views about an Education Secretary, just as professional engineers with a particular interest in energy generation and supply might have views on politicians who have the responsibility of making policy in that field, and which might be regarded by others as attacks 'with no reason'.

[jean]

JLW cast the first stone with Tchaikovsky:

An interesting choice of metaphor.

At whom did she cast it?

[An_Inspector_Calls]

Not at all. The thread had gone off tack with several likes and dislikes being voiced, Alpen's included. I was merely commenting on Alpen's stance.

I would have no objection whatsoever to Alpen making his many comments about Gove if they were supported by a discussion of the issues in the teaching profession (as I do on the rather rare number of occasions when I comment on generation issues) but they're not - and neither were your or Jean's comments either by the way.