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  • ahinton
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    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
    Yes, there is. The pattern of yourself endlessly cluttering up these boards with homosexualist tittle-tattle.
    Er - have you by chance noticed the thread title? Perhaps not - though, even if not, one might well wonder why you clutter it up with so much stuff about a subject in which you have so often clarified your reluctance even to feign interest...

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    • MrGongGong
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      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
      Yes, there is. The pattern of yourself endlessly cluttering up these boards with homosexualist tittle-tattle.
      Why not try commenting on something to do with MUSIC for a change ?
      You might actually learn something in the discourse
      rather than parade you tired old obsessions with Gay people ?
      Or better still just come out of the closet Pee you know you want to and i've been reliably told it's not that bad you know , you might actually make some friends ?
      Last edited by MrGongGong; 11-12-13, 18:07. Reason: its hard to spell on an iphone on the bus !

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      • Ferretfancy
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3487

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        Why not try commenting on something to do with MUISC for a change ?
        You might actually learn something in the discourse
        rather than parade you tired old obsessions with Gay people ?
        Or better still just come out of the closet Pee you know you want to and i've been reliably told it's not that bad you know , you might actually make some friends ?
        MrGongGong

        Re Mr Pee's emergence from the closet, I offered to fall in love with him in an earlier posting, even promising to to send flowers, but I'm afraid that his lack of response can only mean rejection !

        What a lucky guy I am ! ( Men are such beasts ! )

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        • MrGongGong
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          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          Originally posted by Ferretfancy View Post
          MrGongGong

          Re Mr Pee's emergence from the closet, I offered to fall in love with him in an earlier posting, even promising to to send flowers, but I'm afraid that his lack of response can only mean rejection !

          What a lucky guy I am ! ( Men are such beasts ! )
          Have you suggested a date opposite MI5 ? :whistle:

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            Why not try commenting on something to do with MUSIC for a change ?
            You might actually learn something in the discourse
            rather than parade you tired old obsessions with Gay people ?
            Or better still just come out of the closet Pee you know you want to and i've been reliably told it's not that bad you know , you might actually make some friends ?

            Last edited by MrGongGong; Today at 18:07. Reason: its hard to spell on an iphone on the bus !

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37718

              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              Have you suggested a date opposite MI5 ? :whistle:
              Very nourishing at this time of year, but usually imported from Israel, I believe...

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              • Mr Pee
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                • Nov 2010
                • 3285

                Meanwhile, in Australia:-

                Australia's High Court has overturned legislation allowing gay marriage in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT), rendering 27 gay marriages invalid.


                <Thumbs up>
                Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                Mark Twain.

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                  Meanwhile, in Australia:-

                  Australia's High Court has overturned legislation allowing gay marriage in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT), rendering 27 gay marriages invalid.


                  <Thumbs up>
                  Time to move on [double thumbs up!]

                  This bit sums it up..........


                  "Marriage between a man and a woman is good for society and beneficial for governments to uphold in legislation."

                  "It is about providing a future for the next generation where they can be raised by their biological parents, wherever possible," the statement said, adding that "it is now time to move on".

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                  • ahinton
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 16123

                    Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                    Time to move on [double thumbs up!]

                    This bit sums it up..........


                    "Marriage between a man and a woman is good for society and beneficial for governments to uphold in legislation."

                    "It is about providing a future for the next generation where they can be raised by their biological parents, wherever possible," the statement said, adding that "it is now time to move on".
                    It's important, however, for the sake of proportionality, to note that this quotation is from the Australian Christian Lobby and, as such, should not and cannot expect to be taken as representative of the Australian adult populace as a whole, any more than could a statement from any other lobby group; in so saying, I do not seek to undermine either the views of that group or their entitlement to hold and publish them, but we are talking a minority group here. It is, however, perhaps more important still to point out that very few people (namely that tiny minority opposed in principle to the institution of marriage in all its forms) would likely argue with the statement that "marriage between a man and a woman is good for society"; the upholding of same sex marriage rights is not for the purpose of undermining opposite sex marriage, as almost any homosexual will tell you if asked.

                    At the risk of presenting a less than ideal analogy, the late and much lamented Shura Cherkassky once wrote of a Schumann transcription of mine "it is well written, but I do not approve of changing Schumann's works" which, notwithstanding my immense admiration for his work, is a strange statement given that Schumann's works remain intact despite what I'd done, just as Chopin's Études do despite Godowsky's Studien über die Etüden von Chopin (and Cherkassky's statement might seem stranger still given how he habitually altered Schumann's works every time he played them!) - the point here being that opposite sex marriage likewise remains intact and the laws governing it have not changed in Australia.

                    Ah, Australia, yes; once again, for the sake of proportionality, we should perhaps bear in mind that we're discussing a country whose population is less than 23m - i.e. only some 1 person in 310 in the world is an Australian living in Australia...

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                    • amateur51

                      Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                      Meanwhile, in Australia:-

                      Australia's High Court has overturned legislation allowing gay marriage in the Australian Capital Territory (ACT), rendering 27 gay marriages invalid.


                      <Thumbs up>
                      What are your thoughts on this development, Mr Pee?

                      And what about the retrogressive actions of the Indian government?

                      India's Supreme Court overturns a 2009 ruling and upholds a law criminalising gay sex, in a move seen as a major blow to gay rights.


                      Can you imagine what it's like being told one moment that you are a full member of the human race and then that the government has changed its mind?
                      Last edited by Guest; 12-12-13, 11:46. Reason: dodgy apostrophe

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                      • amateur51

                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        Time to move on [double thumbs up!]

                        This bit sums it up..........


                        "Marriage between a man and a woman is good for society and beneficial for governments to uphold in legislation."

                        "It is about providing a future for the next generation where they can be raised by their biological parents, wherever possible," the statement said, adding that "it is now time to move on".
                        What about gay children who are born into heterosexual marriage where they don't take it well? What about chidren born into a gay or lesbian (or even bisexual) marriage?

                        As posed the above statements are too simplistic to be credible, in my view.

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                        • amateur51

                          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                          It's important, however, for the sake of proportionality, to note that this quotation is from the Australian Christian Lobby and, as such, should not and cannot expect to be taken as representative of the Australian adult populace as a whole, any more than could a statement from any other lobby group; in so saying, I do not seek to undermine either the views of that group or their entitlement to hold and publish them, but we are talking a minority group here. It is, however, perhaps more important still to point out that very few people (namely that tiny minority opposed in principle to the institution of marriage in all its forms) would likely argue with the statement that "marriage between a man and a woman is good for society"; the upholding of same sex marriage rights is not for the purpose of undermining opposite sex marriage, as almost any homosexual will tell you if asked.

                          At the risk of presenting a less than ideal analogy, the late and much lamented Shura Cherkassky once wrote of a Schumann transcription of mine "it is well written, but I do not approve of changing Schumann's works" which, notwithstanding my immense admiration for his work, is a strange statement given that Schumann's works remain intact despite what I'd done, just as Chopin's Études do despite Godowsky's Studien über die Etüden von Chopin (and Cherkassky's statement might seem stranger still given how he habitually altered Schumann's works every time he played them!) - the point here being that opposite sex marriage likewise remains intact and the laws governing it have not changed in Australia.

                          Ah, Australia, yes; once again, for the sake of proportionality, we should perhaps bear in mind that we're discussing a country whose population is less than 23m - i.e. only some 1 person in 310 in the world is an Australian living in Australia...
                          Do you think perhaps that Shura was kindly telling you that your transcription was insufficiently transmogrified, or difficult or had insufficient hidden melodies? How he loved those three qualities.

                          Thanks for reminding me of the sheer glee apparent in much of his playing.

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                          • eighthobstruction
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 6444

                            Dear Am51

                            I've found myself walking around humming and fake whistling Jimmy Summervilles : Run Away, all morning....is this a cause to worry about anything....
                            bong ching

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                            • amateur51

                              Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                              Dear Am51

                              I've found myself walking around humming and fake whistling Jimmy Summervilles : Run Away, all morning....is this a cause to worry about anything....
                              Funny how these tunes pop into our heads, isn't it. That's my earworm for the day now, without doubt. Cheers, eighth!

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                              • Serial_Apologist
                                Full Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 37718

                                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                                What about gay children who are born into heterosexual marriage where they don't take it well? What about chidren born into a gay or lesbian (or even bisexual) marriage?

                                As posed the above statements are too simplistic to be credible, in my view.
                                I'm still puzzled why Mr Pee announces any interest in gay matters in Australia, given that he and his chums here tell us that what goes on in Russia is none of our business.

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