Musical Homophobia - or The Homophobia Histories

[Beef Oven!]

For "mind" substitue "record" in Sorabji's retort to an accusation of his having changed his mind about something, namely that the great thing about changing one's mind is having a mind to change in the first place...

Pretty good for an Essex boy!

[ahinton]

Pretty good for an Essex boy!

Very droll, I'm sure although, whoever (if anyone) it might have been "good for", I do not imagine that many "Essex boys" are Parsis and I suspect that even less were Parsis in the last decade of the 19th century when Sorabji was born. No marks for the oven(!) there, then...

[Resurrection Man]

Nazism was a strongly 'religious' movement, in that people were expected to follow things by dictat, not reason. Much the same can be said of Stalinist Russia, the Cambodia of Pol Pot, or North Korea.

To have strong political, quasi-religious views that were against Jews was unquestionably wrong. They weren't excused by the depth of one's faith.

That comment is pretty insensitive to a practising Christian.

[Resurrection Man]

Of course I object to religiously-inspired hatred of lesbians & gay men. Lesbians and gay men are born such; Catholics are not, they are, for the most part, brain-washed at birth to be Catholics, whereas most lesbians and gay men are brain-washed not to be lesbian or gay, despite that being their nature.

So ..at a stroke...you have determined that anyone who is religious lacks the capacity for reason. That the fact that they have any sort of religious conviction is a direct result of 'brain-washing'. How delightfully bigotted is that viewpoint.

[Bryn]

That comment is pretty insensitive to a practising Christian.

What many Christians have practiced over the 2 millennia since Jesus of Nazareth's time has often been pretty insensitive to those both of and not of their faith. I suggest that they turn the other cheek to any insensitivity they might perceive.

[ahinton]

So ..at a stroke...you have determined that anyone who is religious lacks the capacity for reason. That the fact that they have any sort of religious conviction is a direct result of 'brain-washing'. How delightfully bigotted is that viewpoint.

Please re-read this - perhaps (for you) several times and then think carefully about it, one bitg at a time - in order to try to get a more realistic grip on exactly what it is that am51 is and is not saying - and, while we're at it, "bigoted" has only one "t".

[Resurrection Man]

Oh dear

Oh wow. I am in shock and awe at this decisive contribution to the debate. Let me run through it again just to be sure I got it the first time.

"Oh dear".

Yup....got it the first time.

Now, what was it you were trying (feebly) to say with that comment ?

[Resurrection Man]

Serena (as he's known to his fan) is not a Catholic as far as I am aware and Seralec was not a vegetarian, so I'm not sure where you're going with this one, Richard Barrett

Oh, c'mon, TweetyPie, you know exactly where he is coming from...you old book-burning vegetarian, you (: fluttering eyelash emoticon:)

[Resurrection Man]

Strrrrike Three-er!

You boys are on form today

Oh wow...shock and awe. Three posts. Now just so I can really appreciate the erudition from your corner. Run the three posts by me once again. Bit hard to fathom the depths of literary nuance.

Strrr-ike Oner!

Strrrike Two-er!

Strrrrike Three-er!

Cor...I really wish I had your command of the English language. Mind you, it does give you practice to stay within the Tweet posting limit.

[Resurrection Man]

What many Christians have practiced over the 2 millennia since Jesus of Nazareth's time has often been pretty insensitive to those both of and not of their faith. I suggest that they turn the other cheek to any insensitivity they might perceive.

Your compassion and appreciation of an individual's perspective is touching and appreciated. God loves even you.

[scottycelt]

Are you seriously questioning or doubting that any human being who is not female can be attractive to people? I'm beginning to get worried about you....

Sorry, ahinton, I suspect you are horribly pot-ugly anyway and I've already been snapped up years ago, I'm afraid ...

[Beef Oven!]

Very droll, I'm sure although, whoever (if anyone) it might have been "good for", I do not imagine that many "Essex boys" are Parsis and I suspect that even less were Parsis in the last decade of the 19th century when Sorabji was born. No marks for the oven(!) there, then...

Leon Dudley Sorabji would not be very exotic these days. Chingford is now in London (since the early 1960s) and is part of one of the most ethnically diverse boroughs in the capital.

And as a born and bread Essex lad with an English mum, he would definitely be unremarkable (save for his utterly enormous talent and intellect).

[amateur51]

So ..at a stroke...you have determined that anyone who is religious lacks the capacity for reason. That the fact that they have any sort of religious conviction is a direct result of 'brain-washing'. How delightfully bigotted is that viewpoint.

Were you brain-washed as a child or is your religion something you took up more recently?

What else would you call adults imposing a supernatural belief system on a young child?

[amateur51]

Oh wow...shock and awe. Three posts. Now just so I can really appreciate the erudition from your corner. Run the three posts by me once again. Bit hard to fathom the depths of literary nuance.

Strrr-ike Oner!

Strrrike Two-er!

Strrrrike Three-er!

Cor...I really wish I had your command of the English language. Mind you, it does give you practice to stay within the Tweet posting limit.

Oh dear, the infamous sense of humour failure rears its ugly mug again

Well my command of English is as a second language, what's your excuse?

Can you ever keep on topic, btw?

[amateur51]

Leon Dudley Sorabji would not be very exotic these days. Chingford is now in London (since the early 1960s) and is part of one of the most ethnically diverse boroughs in the capital.

And as a born and bread Essex lad with an English mum, he would definitely be unremarkable (save for his utterly enormous talent and intellect).

Bread?

Use your loaf!