Musical Homophobia - or The Homophobia Histories

[jean]

This will help you.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/TheMeaningOfMatrimony.pdf

Very helpful - thanks!

'Some people say that marriage is an outdated institution. They couldn’t be more wrong. It is just as relevant today as it was hundreds of years ago.

That’s because the principles of love, loyalty and commitment which are at its heart are vital components of a strong society. Marriage brings stability and it binds us together. It helps make our families stronger.

And much of the strength of marriage lies in its ability to change with the times. As society has changed, so marriage has
changed, and become available to an increasingly broad range of people. In the twenty-first century marriage is an inclusive – not exclusive – institution. It is available to all adults who are prepared to make vows of life-long fidelity and commitment. Except, that is, if you happen to love someone of the same sex. I believe that simply isn’t right, and that is why the Government is clear: we want to make marriage available to all couples...'

[Beef Oven!]

"you are more than welcome"...a phrase he used in some song or other....

Doh!

I've obviously been distracted by trivial human rights matters!

I miss the great man.

[Beef Oven!]

Very helpful - thanks!

'Some people say that marriage is an outdated institution. They couldn’t be more wrong. It is just as relevant today as it was hundreds of years ago.

That’s because the principles of love, loyalty and commitment which are at its heart are vital components of a strong society. Marriage brings stability and it binds us together. It helps make our families stronger.

And much of the strength of marriage lies in its ability to change with the times. As society has changed, so marriage has
changed, and become available to an increasingly broad range of people. In the twenty-first century marriage is an inclusive – not exclusive – institution. It is available to all adults who are prepared to make vows of life-long fidelity and commitment. Except, that is, if you happen to love someone of the same sex. I believe that simply isn’t right, and that is why the Government is clear: we want to make marriage available to all couples...'

Is that as far as you got?

It gets better later!

[Mr Pee]

Very helpful - thanks!

'Some people say that marriage is an outdated institution. They couldn’t be more wrong. It is just as relevant today as it was hundreds of years ago.

That’s because the principles of love, loyalty and commitment which are at its heart are vital components of a strong society. Marriage brings stability and it binds us together. It helps make our families stronger.

And much of the strength of marriage lies in its ability to change with the times. As society has changed, so marriage has
changed, and become available to an increasingly broad range of people. In the twenty-first century marriage is an inclusive – not exclusive – institution. It is available to all adults who are prepared to make vows of life-long fidelity and commitment. Except, that is, if you happen to love someone of the same sex. I believe that simply isn’t right, and that is why the Government is clear: we want to make marriage available to all couples...'

And they've gone ahead and done it. So those of who are less than happy with the legislation just have to put up with it, just as those in Russia who are less than happy have to put up with theirs.

[jean]

It gets better later!

Oh yes, I can see that - though there are some dreadfully reactionary bits, too.

[Beef Oven!]

And they've gone ahead and done it. So those of who are less than happy with the legislation just have to put up with it, just as those in Russia who are less than happy have to put up with theirs.

"When a government introduces major social legislation that requires modifying so many laws, it does so through a staged process of reflection and study: first a Green Paper to frame the debate; an authoritative guide in the form of a White Paper; and eventually, a draft Bill. This deliberation allows the relevant evidence to surface, and for a thorough public debate to take place.
The Government, driven by an obsessive determination to deliver ‘marriage equality’ by the 2015 general election for strategic reasons, ignored this carefully staged process"

[ahinton]

Crikey, that's 205 words and only 2 semicolons in a single sentence...

I can see only one semicolon, but so what; your point about the actual subject matter is...?...

[ahinton]

I note that Beefy has not been able to justify his nonsensical suggestion that human rights have been destroyed .

Likewise.

[Beef Oven!]

Oh yes, I can see that - though there are some dreadfully reactionary bits, too.

Tatchell would be surprised to called a reactionary.

It's a very balanced and informative read. It's a shame that you've taken a dismissive view of it.

[ahinton]

And they've gone ahead and done it. So those of who are less than happy with the legislation just have to put up with it, just as those in Russia who are less than happy have to put up with theirs.

What is there up with which to put, Mr Pee? If you do not wish to marry someone of the same sex, you are not compelled by law to do so and if you wish to marry someone of the same sex you are at liberty to do so just as you were before the legislation was passed. So - where's the problem?

[MrGongGong]

What is there up with which to put, Mr Pee? If you do not wish to marry someone of the same sex, you are not compelled by law to do so and if you wish to marry someone of the same sex you are at librty to doso just as you were before the legislation was passed. So - where's the problem?

Quite ............

[Beef Oven!]

What is there up with which to put, Mr Pee? If you do not wish to marry someone of the same sex, you are not compelled by law to do so and if you wish to marry someone of the same sex you are at librty to doso just as you were before the legislation was passed. So - where's the problem?

The bit that you don't seem to be getting your head around, is that the legislation destroys conjugal, procreative marriage and leaves us with a gender-neutral partnership. It's not marriage.

Now if that's fine by you, great, it's a free country. But don't expect everybody to agree with you

If you still don't understand, read the bloody reader I posted!

[MrGongGong]

The bit that you don't seem to be getting your head around, is that the legislation destroys conjugal, procreative marriage and leaves us with a gender-neutral partnership. It's not marriage.

Now if that's fine by you, great, it's a free country. But don't expect everybody to agree with you

If you still don't understand, read the bloody reader I posted!

errrr ........My wife and I had a sh* (no lets not go there..............)

But it seems to still be working ok whatever Dave and chums say

[Beef Oven!]

Quite ............

The bit that you don't seem to be getting your head around, is that the legislation destroys conjugal, procreative marriage and leaves us with a gender-neutral partnership. It's not marriage.

Now if that's fine by you, great, it's a free country. But don't expect everybody to agree with you

If you still don't understand, read the bloody reader I posted!

[MrGongGong]

I can assure you that my marriage is NOT "gender-neutral" at all
(or wasn't the last time I looked anyway .............)
the religionists can go and have their own thing if they want and feel so strongly about it
THAT'S fine by me
but what's not fine is for them to dictate to the rest of us , or assume that they somehow have the right to