Musical Homophobia - or The Homophobia Histories

[MrGongGong]

I hope very much that nothing in this thread has "destroyed" your marriage or its happiness in the way that one contributor thereto has repeatedly sought to assert that the new same sex marriage legislation has done not only for you but for the rest of us heterosexuals; that said, can you explain to an ignoramus like me what "batting for Darrington" means?

It's the "propaganda" (Great band by the way) I just can't resist ............... ( :laugh: etc )

[Beef Oven!]

Whoever he was or might otherwise have been, he wouldn't be anything "these days".


I know - and your point is?...


Paninis? Naan? Baguette, Sourdugh?...


He may have been born there but ws hardly bred there.


Fair comment, though the connection with tht thread topic seems remarkably tenuous...

When do you think Leon Dudley left Chingford (if he wasn't bread there)?

[Serial_Apologist]

When do you think Leon Dudley left Chingford (if he wasn't bread there)?

He wasn't crummy, he was rather crusty though, sometimes.

[ahinton]

When do you think Leon Dudley left Chingford (if he wasn't bread there)?

I have no idea when Leon Dudley left anywhere; sorry. As to when Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji might have left Chingford, where he was born, the Sorabji Resource Site at http://www.mus.ulaval.ca/roberge/srs/01-resid.htm has

1892-? Buxton Road, Chingford, Essex [Google Maps] Sorabji’s first known address (civic number unknown) is located off Station Road (A1069), not far from its intersection with Kings Road (A110), close to the Chingford train station on Chingford Green.
Before 1914 Wigmore Street, London [Google Maps] In an essay entitled "Concert-Going Memories" Sorabji wrote that he lived on Wigmore Street before World War I.

That's all that I can tell you about this.

[Beef Oven!]

He wasn't crummy, he was rather crusty though, sometimes.

But he was born and bread in Essex. It's the only way, apparently.

[ahinton]

He wasn't crummy, he was rather crusty though, sometimes.

Do(ug)h!...

[ahinton]

But he was born and bread in Essex. It's the only way, apparently.

Your evidence for this, whatever if anything it might mean, is...?...

[Pabmusic]

That comment is pretty insensitive to a practising Christian.

Is it? Perhaps you should understand my point, which is that religions require 'belief' and obedience to the dictats of an authority. Those are defining characteristics that distinguish religious thinking from rational thinking. Nazism and Communism were certainly in that category, even to the extent of using the trappings of religion - mass gatherings, icons, books of quotations from the revered.

In post 657 I said:

...And views that are based on belief or dogma - such as "all Jews are evil" are quasi-religious precisely because they are not based on evidence, but on belief or dictat.

I was not attempting to knock anyone's personal faith (how could I have done that?) but to show that Nazism and Communism were of a particular nature, religious rather than secular.

[ahinton]

Nazism and Communism were of a particular nature, religious rather than secular.

This brings back to mind Sorabji's term "CommuNazi"...

[Pabmusic]

Sorry, ahinton, I suspect you are horribly pot-ugly anyway and I've already been snapped up years ago, I'm afraid ...

May I congratulate you, Scotty, on your new avatar. Is is a recent photo?

[Beef Oven!]

I have no idea when Leon Dudley left anywhere; sorry. As to when Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji might have left Chingford, where he was born, the Sorabji Resource Site at http://www.mus.ulaval.ca/roberge/srs/01-resid.htm has

1892-? Buxton Road, Chingford, Essex [Google Maps] Sorabji’s first known address (civic number unknown) is located off Station Road (A1069), not far from its intersection with Kings Road (A110), close to the Chingford train station on Chingford Green.
Before 1914 Wigmore Street, London [Google Maps] In an essay entitled "Concert-Going Memories" Sorabji wrote that he lived on Wigmore Street before World War I.

That's all that I can tell you about this.

Very interesting, and thanks.

Seems he would have been brought up in Essex, at least in the first part of his childhood/teenage years.

When he lived in Buxton Road his name was Leon Dudley. I don't know when he changed his name, do you?

I only have one work by him, Opus Clavicembalisticum. I love it. When I have the time, I indulge in the entire work in one sitting.

[Pabmusic]

This brings back to mind Sorabji's term "CommuNazi"...

I'd not heard that. Neat.

[ahinton]

Very interesting, and thanks.

Seems he would have Ben brought up in Essex, at least in the first part of his childhood/teenage years.

When he lived in Buxton Road his name was Leon Dudley. I don't know when he changed his name, do you?

It wasn't; his birth certificate shows Leon Dudley Sorabji and the two forenames were clearly given to him provisionally though precisely when he formally adopted the name Kaikhosru and his father's forename Shapurji is not known at present, although his first compositions dating from the early months of WWI show that his proper name was already being used.

I only have one work by him, Opus Clavicembalisticum. I love it. When I have the time, I indulge in the entire work in one sitting.

Good for you; that's the best way. Whose recording/s do you have?

[Beef Oven!]

It wasn't; his birth certificate shows Leon Dudley Sorabji and the two forenames were clearly given to him provisionally though precisely when he formally adopted the name Kaikhosru and his father's forename Shapurji is not known at present, although his first compositions dating from the early months of WWI show that his proper name was already being used.


GOod for you; that's the best way. Whose recording/s do you have?

Geoffrey Douglas Madge.

In fact I played it last week.

[ahinton]

Geoffrey Douglas Madge.

In fact I played it last week.

If you care for the work as you say you do, you ought to try to get the Ogdon at some point too!