Damascus gas attack - who did it and how will the west spin it ?

[zoomy]

no one here can know for certain the identity of the guilty party/ies and, as I wrote, until and unless there's a successful outcome of a detailed UN inspection



who cpuld have any faith in UN inspections after hans blix ?

[ahinton]

no one here can know for certain the identity of the guilty party/ies and, as I wrote, until and unless there's a successful outcome of a detailed UN inspection
who cpuld have any faith in UN inspections after hans blix ?

I cannot say but that does not in any way alter the fact that only the results of a reliable and verifiable inspection (assumoing that one could be conducted by UN or indeed anyone else) will be vital for any realistic and credible assessment of the situation ever to emerge.

[Resurrection Man]

Syria is often regarded as Iran's closest strategic ally. Iran wants Assad to hang on to power. Perhaps Resurrection Man can tell us why he believes that it is credible that Iran might have been responsible for this appalling act?

Anyone can just blurt out 'Iran' but that's clearly just 'stirring the pot'

Ah, Tweety-Pie. Always wanted my own pet stalker.

You know, there is one thing, Tweety Pie, that I can rely on and that is that you pick, pick away ...like someone digging at a scab.....but most of the time you are talking complete and utter bollocks.

[amateur51]

Ah, Tweety-Pie. Always wanted my own pet stalker.

Let's leave your sordid fantasies to one side, eh?

[David-G]

Following todays events in Damascus - As far as I can see there are three possible culprits -

1. Syrian rebels to provoke the west into funding them more and to bring them into the war against the government.
2. Syrian government, who launched the attack but I cannot see why they would do this.
3. the Isrealis, desperate to avoid the government winning the war and strengthening the Iran, Syria, Hezbollah alliance.

I had hoped to find some intelligent discussion on this terrifying development; instead the "discussion" mainly seems to be personal needling. I really despair when I read this sort of thing. It discourages me from reading the political threads on this forum.

I will just make this comment. Statement 3 above seems bizarre. From what I read, Israel hopes, so far as Syria-Israel relations are concerned, for a continuation of the present Syrian regime, with which there has been a peaceful though uneasy coexistence for all these years. Israel would be much more concerned with the government losing the war, raising the prospect of another fundamentalist regime on its doorstep. Also, the last thing that Israel would want to do would be to encourage the use of chemical weapons in this part of the world, to which it is very vulnerable.

[zoomy]

Isreal has already overtly intervened once in this war when it bombed a government arsenal in damascus a couple of months ago and hezbollah involvement in the war on the side of assad must be alarming to the the isrealis since hezbolah is iranian backed,militarilly very accomplished and their involvement may spread the war into lebanon which islreal definately does not want. So taking out the syrian government and trying to influence who replaces assad might be their policy.

[amateur51]

Let's leave your sordid fantasies to one side, eh?

Later: Members may be interested to know that I received a very creepy private message from Resurrection Man about this.

If members want to know more, do send me a PM.

[Richard Barrett]

If members want to know more, do send me a PM.

As it happens I tried to send you a PM a couple of days ago on another subject, but was told your inbox was full...

[amateur51]

As it happens I tried to send you a PM a couple of days ago on another subject, but was told your inbox was full...

... and in response to your message I cleared my inbox and sent a PM of profound apology for the inconvenience caused

[Resurrection Man]

Later: Members may be interested to know that I received a very creepy private message from Resurrection Man about this.

If members want to know more, do send me a PM.

Creepy message ? No not really. In your imagination perhaps.

Let's just take a step back shall we.

Here is a thread started to discuss Syria and to which I responded. You then stumble on the thread and launch into a personal attack on me. Ahinton responds quite reasonably and rises to my defence (and for which Ahinton my thanks). Yet again, you come back in with another personal attack on me. Ahinton again responds in my defence. And again you come back in on the attack. This happens time and time again from you and also from Flosshilde across all threads. ff has asked you on numerous occasions to refrain from this continual sniping and yet you continue to do so. On any other forum such bullying behaviour (for that is exactly what it is) would result in a temporary ban.

Why do you do it?

[amateur51]

Creepy message ? No not really. In your imagination perhaps.

Let's just take a step back shall we.

Here is a thread started to discuss Syria and to which I responded. You then stumble on the thread and launch into a personal attack on me. Ahinton responds quite reasonably and rises to my defence (and for which Ahinton my thanks). Yet again, you come back in with another personal attack on me. Ahinton again responds in my defence. And again you come back in on the attack. This happens time and time again from you and also from Flosshilde across all threads. ff has asked you on numerous occasions to refrain from this continual sniping and yet you continue to do so. On any other forum such bullying behaviour (for that is exactly what it is) would result in a temporary ban.

Why do you do it?

Nice try - pick on the victim and invoke Matron. I

I'd just say that this isn't the first time you've sent me dodgy PMs - you have form. I'm not saying any more on here because I'd find it tedious to read this about other people.- people can PM me if they want to.

[Resurrection Man]

Nice try - pick on the victim and invoke Matron. I

I'd just say that this isn't the first time you've sent me dodgy PMs - you have form. I'm not saying any more on here because I'd find it tedious to read this about other people.- people can PM me if they want to.

Just answer the damn question. I shall repeat it here.

"Why do you do it?" ...now what part of that sentence do you have difficulty in understanding?

[eighthobstruction]

Goodness there's a terrible whiff of Bernard Ingham about you RM....

[Resurrection Man]

Goodness there's a terrible whiff of Bernard Ingham about you RM....

And here comes Troll Number 2. Having had one attack, you just thought you might as well come along and have another crack. Pathetic.

[Resurrection Man]

Isreal has already overtly intervened once in this war when it bombed a government arsenal in damascus a couple of months ago

Agreed. According to news articles it was to target some very sophisticated Russian anti-aircraft missiles en route to Hezbolah. It's funny how Russia just keeps on supplying hi-tech weaponry.