Sincere disingenuousness

[scottycelt]

Jimmy Saville Float anyone?

I agree.

In terms of descending to the very depths of bad taste that undoubtedly hit rock-bottom.

[Pabmusic]

I agree.

In terms of descending to the very depths of bad taste that undoubtedly hit rock-bottom.

I am quite familiar with the Borders Ridings, and very splendid they are - or were. They'll not be quite the same now. :sadface:

[amateur51]

In the meantime, the Prisons Minister, who is now a CFM presenter, addressed parliament and said something like: "I can assure the House that, as I speak, there are no Prison Service prisoners being held in police cells". Loud cheers (brays?) from the government benches.

What a tale, Pabs :yikes:

I wonder if we could bombard him at CFM from time to time with requests for the prisoners' chorus from Fidelio? :erm::whistle:

He was the sort of politician who gives politicians a bad name.

[scottycelt]

I see 'racist' and 'bigot' are some of the words predictably now being freely bandied around.

Mr Bloom apparently has a Polish wife and employs Kashmiri staff. There are representatives of the ethnic communities who are UKIP members or have simply cast votes for UKIP candidiates. Incredible as it might seem, some of these second and third-generation immigrants might well even share Mr Bloom's views on foreign aid.

Mr Bloom may have been stupid and ignorant in the words he used ... I certainly think so ... but then again I've often thought that about quite a few politicians in my lifetime.

I've seen Scotland referred to as 'the land of kilts and haggis'. Ignorance and stupidity know no bounds, but are such comments really 'racist' and 'bigoted'?

If so there must be one heck of a lot of racists and bigots in our midst!

[Pabmusic]

What a tale, Pabs :yikes:

I wonder if we could bombard him at CFM from time to time with requests for the prisoners' chorus from Fidelio? :erm::whistle:

He was the sort of politician who gives politicians a bad name.

I met him once; he attended a meeting at Feltham YOI that I also attended (a devil of a place to find, I recall). I was introduced, but he turned his nose up at me. At least, that's how I felt. :blush:

[mercia]

I love the way the BBC goes on to inform us that the B word is perfectly acceptable in Dar-es-Salaam

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-23600129

[eighthobstruction]

I met him once; he attended a meeting at Feltham YOI that I also attended (a devil of a place to find, I recall). I was introduced, but he turned his nose up at me. At least, that's how I felt. :blush:

Don't take it badly Pabs....he was probably hoping for a kiss from a princess to free him from eternal frogdom....

[eighthobstruction]

Pab's was it you that Paxman was attempting to come to aid of ref truth when he got his several disingenuous replies from Howard....??

[amateur51]

I met him once; he attended a meeting at Feltham YOI that I also attended (a devil of a place to find, I recall). I was introduced, but he turned his nose up at me. At least, that's how I felt. :blush:

Rather like jury service, I think citizens should be selected at random to visit YOI Feltham as part of a citizenship training course.

I went there just the once as part of my job in the mid-1990s. The hair stood up on the back of my neck as soon as we got inside - a terrifying place.

[Pabmusic]

Pab's was it you that Paxman was attempting to come to aid of ref truth when he got his several disingenuous replies from Howard....??

A great televisual moment indeed. :ok:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwlsd8RAoqI

The question was whether Howard had interfered in an serious operational decision (something which he was on record as saying the Home Secretary should not do).

[Ferretfancy]

There was a wonderfully funny interview with Bloom on Channel 4 News last night in which he wriggled like a worm on a pin, great stuff!

[Nick Armstrong]

There was a wonderfully funny interview with Bloom on Channel 4 News last night in which he wriggled like a worm on a pin, great stuff!

... and then did a John Nott tribute "earpiece-removal-and-walkout" manoeuvre, muttering "I can't be bothered" :laugh:

[DavidP]

I see 'racist' and 'bigot' are some of the words predictably now being freely bandied around.

Mr Bloom apparently has a Polish wife and employs Kashmiri staff. There are representatives of the ethnic communities who are UKIP members or have simply cast votes for UKIP candidiates. Incredible as it might seem, some of these second and third-generation immigrants might well even share Mr Bloom's views on foreign aid.

Mr Bloom may have been stupid and ignorant in the words he used ... I certainly think so ... but then again I've often thought that about quite a few politicians in my lifetime.

I've seen Scotland referred to as 'the land of kilts and haggis'. Ignorance and stupidity know no bounds, but are such comments really 'racist' and 'bigoted'?

If so there must be one heck of a lot of racists and bigots in our midst!

Ah, that old chesnut - some of Mr Bloom's best friends are .....

His views of foreign aid are not in question here but the way he chose to express them. The words he used surely tell us something about his views on those people/countries in receipt of aid, don't they?

Reading your post again, are you seriously comparing references to Scotland as 'the land of kilts and haggis' - which is a lazy stereotype at worst and far from being pejorative - with 'bongo, bongo land' - which, to quote from the article I mentioned is "an attempt to portray a continent as an undifferentiated mass of uncivilised people who have just enough sophistication to rip us off by spending our money on sunglasses, but otherwise are happy with their drums."?

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

well i for one do not like seeing foreign aid, such as it is, ending up in Swiss Bank Accounts ...., nor do i approve of corruption in the EU, HMG or any where for that matter ... is it bigoted to call Cameron and Osborne toffs or posh boys .... if so guilty m'lud

[amateur51]

... and then did a John Nott tribute "earpiece-removal-and-walkout" manoeuvre, muttering "I can't be bothered" :laugh:

I wonder if the camera caught KG-M chortling at the departing Bloom as it once caught Sir Robin Day post-Nott? A great television moment :ok: