Privacy and the State

[Mr Pee]

As The Guardian is leading on this discussion I'm afraid it's inevitable that the preponderance of links will come from there.

Maybe you could check in Motor Sport and Mivvi Monthly and post any relevant links you might find there.

I don't read Motor Sport, I read F1 Racing Magazine.

And what the heck is Mivvi Monthly???

[ahinton]

I don't read Motor Sport, I read F1 Racing Magazine.

Then perhaps you should check there instead.

And what the heck is Mivvi Monthly???

I do not know, but perhaps it's the journal of these people - http://www.mivvi.co.uk/

[Mr Pee]

I do not know, but perhaps it's the journal of these people - http://www.mivvi.co.uk/

Or maybe it's a magazine for Ice Lolly afficionados:-

http://i.imgur.com/Lh1T57S.jpg

Although why Amateur would think I am a fan I have no idea.

(Why can't we upload pictures to this part of the forum, by the by?)

[eighthobstruction]

I believe Mr Pee it has to do with the humourous idea that it is your employment to sell icecreams at the theatre....I believe it is a mild insult....

[Mr Pee]

I believe Mr Pee it has to do with the humourous idea that it is your employment to sell icecreams at the theatre....I believe it is a mild insult....

Ah.....yes. Of course. Once again amsy's sledgehammer wit has passed me by......besides which, selling Ice Creams is not part of my remit.

Then perhaps you should check there instead.

This is interesting, although I recommend you buy the magazine to get the full article, a fascinating look at what might transpire between Alonso and Raikkonen at Ferrari next year....

http://f1racing.co.uk/testdrive

[amateur51]

Getting back on-topic ...

Two of four British men arrested over an alleged terror plot have been released, Scotland Yard has said. The other two suspects remain in custody, a force spokesman said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24595067

[Mr Pee]

Getting back on-topic ...

Two of four British men arrested over an alleged terror plot have been released, Scotland Yard has said. The other two suspects remain in custody, a force spokesman said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24595067

Whilst I am sure you can barely contain your feelings of smug self-satisfaction at the news that two suspects have been released, I am more encouraged that two are still in detention. A temporary loss of liberty for two innocent individuals- if indeed they turn out to be so in the long term- will be a small price to pay for the capture of two terrorists.

[MrGongGong]

A temporary loss of liberty for two innocent individuals- if indeed they turn out to be so in the long term- will be a small price to pay for the capture of two terrorists.

Possibly so
So do you also consider the imprisonment and killing of other innocent citizens a "small price to pay" ?


(could I have a Feast, a Minimilk and a tune on the green clarinet please ! ......)

[Mr Pee]

Getting back on-topic ...

Two of four British men arrested over an alleged terror plot have been released, Scotland Yard has said. The other two suspects remain in custody, a force spokesman said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24595067

And:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24604617

Still think it was all a publicity stunt?

[amateur51]

And:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24604617

Still think it was all a publicity stunt?

I thought you said that you were going to wait until it was all over? So far two men have been charged. They've not been through court yet; the CPS hasn't screwed up the prosecution; all sorts of things might happen.

I must say that for the Met to hold two men for over 120 hours when apparently the two men have been apparently under close surveillance for a long time in rather remarkable.

Let's see what transpires.

And just as I eschewed a personal and triumphalist tone in my message #891, I wish you'd behave in an adult fashion and do the same, Mr Pee.

[Mr Pee]

I must say that for the Met to hold two men for over 120 hours when apparently the two men have been apparently under close surveillance for a long time in rather remarkable.

You think that; I do not, for the reasons I elucidated in an earlier post, to which your response was simply: "Oh dear."

And if you had actually read the article I linked to, rather than just skimming the headline, you would have seen that six properties and two cars were searched as part of the operation. Such searches take time, as does the processing and evaluation of any evidence recovered in those searches.

And just as I eschewed a personal and triumphalist tone in my message #891, I wish you'd behave in an adult fashion and do the same, Mr Pee.

I don't know where you think I am being triumphalist. Personal, yes, because of your hair-brained theory that this whole operation was somehow cooked up as a publicity stunt to make MI5 look good.

[amateur51]

You think that; I do not, for the reasons I elucidated in an earlier post, to which your response was simply: "Oh dear."

And if you had actually read the article I linked to, rather than just skimming the headline, you would have seen that six properties and two cars were searched as part of the operation. Such searches take time, as does the processing and evaluation of any evidence recovered in those searches.




I don't know where you think I am being triumphalist. Personal, yes, because of your hair-brained theory that this whole operation was somehow cooked up as a publicity stunt to make MI5 look good.

You've not quite got all my point but a fair effort. Precisely why you think it is hare-brained you don't say, unless you're making just another snide comment.

Don't you think that they would be likely to have plenty of evidence to arrest before they did so? Or else these suspects were about to move into active attack mode, so arrest was vital - but again there is no evidence of this that's been presented so we don't know. To spend nearly a week searching six properties and two cars sounds suspiciously like a fishing expedition.

We'll see.

[Mr Pee]

You've not quite got all my point but a fair effort. Precisely why you think it is hare-brained you don't say, unless you're making just another snide comment.

Don't you think that they would be likely to have plenty of evidence to arrest before they did so? Or else these suspects were about to move into active attack mode, so arrest was vital - but again there is no evidence of this that's been presented so we don't know. To spend nearly a week searching six properties and two cars sounds suspiciously like a fishing expedition.

We'll see.

Well if it was a fishing expedition, they caught two fish, didn't they?

[amateur51]

Well if it was a fishing expedition, they caught two fish, didn't they?

We shall see, we shall see.

[Mr Pee]

Meanwhile, yet more indication of the damage done by the reckless behaviour of The Guardian.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10397795/We-will-lose-terrorists-because-of-GCHQ-leaks-warns-minister.html

When will that newspaper be properly dealt with over this? To my mind, it is infinitely worse than anything of which News International papers have been accused.