We need a benefits system that gets assistance to the people that really need it. Many people need more than the system currently provides. This poor woman got caught up in the totally inappropriate way that that the government is dealing with the dependency culture.
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This is a very interesting letter by an Atos employee who resigned last year....very revealing....http://atosvictimsgroup.co.uk/2013/0...-inside-story/bong chingComment
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Old news, but it supports what I'm saying about the inappropriate way that the dependency culture is being addressed. :ok:Originally posted by eighthobstruction View PostComment
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voluntary euthanasia....obviously this should be sub-contracted out....with a balance of quality over cost being taken into consideration....bong chingComment
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... and where, then, should those who want euthanasia seek assistance?Originally posted by teamsaint View PostComment
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While my appeal to a tribunal is still to go through, I suppose I'm sub judice, so will remain schtumm.
Under the circumstances, I think I'll avoid discussions about voluntary euthanasia as well.
Do remember Atos sponsored the Paralympics....... was it tax deductible?Comment
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I want free cheese for lifeOriginally posted by vinteuil View Post
I want Xenakis to be played at 120db in all public spaces
What was it Mr Jagger said about "what you want ? "Comment
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... you may not Always be able to get What You Want.
But why should you be able to deny those who want to die their wish?Comment
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And if you try sometimes, you might find you get what you need.....Originally posted by vinteuil View PostComment
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Even if by giving that it denies others who are more vulnerable the right to live ?Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
Of course, I had forgotten that people believe that there can be "safeguards" to prevent this
just like the ones in Post # 5 then :yikes:Comment
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I think it is extremely dangerous for us all if society allows people to assist in the deaths of others.Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
This of course leaves some people in desperately difficult circumstances, and I am not offering it as a perfect solution.
It doesn't take a great leap of imagination to envisage circumstances where one might want to go against what I think, but what I want, and what is for the greater good of society aren't always the same thing.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.Comment
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I do not accept your contention that X's "wish to die" in any way "denies the right to live" of a vulnerable Y.Comment
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That's because you believe that we live in a society that is able to protect the most vulnerable people ?Originally posted by vinteuil View Post
Which isn't one I recognise ......... nor do many of the young disabled people that I sometimes work with
WHICH is NOT to say that people should have to suffer
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that part of living in a society means that sometimes we have to give away some of our own choices so that others might have some choice
it's not much to ask really :blush:Comment
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I do not accept that my "giving away" my choice of euthanasia would give more choice to the vulnerable.
I do believe it shd be possible to devise legislation that will permit my choice and also protect those who do not wish any such choice.Comment
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It is , of course , "possible to devise legislation" that will do thatOriginally posted by vinteuil View Post
but I doubt it's possible to enact it in a way that protects
a "mistake" would have terrible consequences and would be inevitable
given that "we" seem unable to protect people like Mrs Wooton I find it hard to believe that "we"
somehow would acquire the magical ability to protect the most vulnerable in our society
who are often regarded as a "burden" by many people (Tory councillors in Cornwall , for example)Comment
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