Are we safe? Suspected terrorist attack in London this afternoon

[amateur51]

:ok: Watch out though, the Socialist Workers Students Organisation 1970s re-union Friends Re-united reunion organisers are out in force tonight :laugh:

Why don't you ever discuss things sensibly Beefy? I can match you quip for quip but really .... :sadface:

[Beef Oven]

Why don't you ever discuss things sensibly Beefy? I can match you quip for quip but really .... :sadface:

fuck me! kettle calling the pot black or what!!!!!!? someone call a copper :laugh:

[scottycelt]

It says: "Drone strikes may disrupt FATA-based militant groups' capacity to plan and execute cross-border attacks on Nato troops and to plot attacks against the US homeland, but they cannot solve the fundamental problem.

Well, I don't think anyone has actually claimed they will ...

The coalition allies have always insisted that a lasting peace can only come about by way of the Afghans themselves so it's merely stating the already blindingly obvious to everyone concerned.

However, the alternative to the use of drones is not peace but probably even more civilian deaths in the longer term. Take your unenviable pick.

[amateur51]

fuck me! kettle calling the pot black or what!!!!!!? someone call a copper :laugh:

See? :sadface: What is it about being serious that alarms you, Beefy? Is it deskilling perhaps?

[amateur51]

Well, I don't think anyone has actually claimed they will ...

The coalition allies have always insisted that a lasting peace can only come about by way of the Afghans themselves so it's merely stating the already blindingly obvious to everyone concerned.

However, the alternative to the use of drones is not peace but probably even more civilian deaths in the longer term. Take your unenviable pick.

How quickly you forget what the murderers of Lee Rigby said about the West murdering Muslims in Muslim lands like Pakistan.

[Beef Oven]

I don't like the Bobster
great poem dreadful musician
but seems to fit here methinks ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnRdsSC3YwM

Followed your link coz, you'd be mad not to, BUT, I got three mouthfuls of dreadful mouth organ shite and then a nano-second of soggy ballad before I hit the stop button!!!

I have returned to Kesto following your awful distraction.

[MrGongGong]

Followed your link coz, you'd be mad not to, BUT, I got three mouthfuls of dreadful mouth organ shite and then a nano-second of soggy ballad before I hit the stop button!!!

I have returned to Kesto following your awful distraction.

:laugh:

Unlike Serialism Dylan IS a dead end musically :winkeye:

[Mr Pee]

How quickly you forget what the murderers of Lee Rigby said about the West murdering Muslims in Muslim lands like Pakistan.

Please tell me you're not trying to even slightly justify or excuse that appalling act..please tell me that....:sadface:

[Beef Oven]

Please tell me you're not trying to even slightly justify or excuse that appalling act..please tell me that....:sadface:

Pee, don't you get it? If they can't do well under this order, instead of redoubling their efforts, they try to bring it down :laugh:

low self-esteem has got so much to answer for!

[MrGongGong]

Please tell me you're not trying to even slightly justify or excuse that appalling act..please tell me that....:sadface:

I didn't think even MrPee was so stupid as to confuse understanding the reasons why something might have happened with thinking that it was a good idea :yikes:
The fact that "the west" in the form of the UK and USA (mainly) has been responsible for the deaths of many innocent people is one of the key things that makes a tiny tiny minority of people do terrible things in the name of retribution. Pretending that somehow this isn't the case is simply foolish and naive. Pretending that it's somehow ok to kill people by remote control "by mistake" in the name of a "war on terror" BUT it's somehow morally different to kill someone with your hands rather than by sitting in front of a computer screen or with a high technology weapons system is also very naive and dangerous.
Lying about the effects of ones actions (the rhetoric of our politicians being a case in point) is simply dishonest.

[amateur51]

Please tell me you're not trying to even slightly justify or excuse that appalling act..please tell me that....:sadface:

What makes you think that Mr Pee? - there doesn't appear to be a thought process to follow :yikes:

[Beef Oven]

I didn't think even MrPee was so stupid as to confuse understanding the reasons why something might have happened with thinking that it was a good idea :yikes:
The fact that "the west" in the form of the UK and USA (mainly) has been responsible for the deaths of many innocent people is one of the key things that makes a tiny tiny minority of people do terrible things in the name of retribution. Pretending that somehow this isn't the case is simply foolish and naive. Pretending that it's somehow ok to kill people by remote control "by mistake" in the name of a "war on terror" BUT it's somehow morally different to kill someone with your hands rather than by sitting in front of a computer screen or with a high technology weapons system is also very naive and dangerous.
Lying about the effects of ones actions (the rhetoric of our politicians being a case in point) is simply dishonest.

Love the "tiny, tiny" quasi-numerical reference - very PC :ok:

You're great on egg-shells, do you take your shoes off all year 'round, or just in January? :winkeye:

[amateur51]

Love the "tiny, tiny" quasi-numerical reference - very PC :ok: You're great on egg-shells, do you take your shoes off all year 'round or just in January? :winkeye:

You just can't do it, can you? You'll make someone a very irritating father-in-law one day, mark my words

[Beef Oven]

You just can't do it, can you. You'll make someone a very irritating father-in-law one day, mark my words

Apparantly I'm an awesome father-in-law!! Bit embarrassing really :laugh:

Hasn't your keyboard got a question mark key? :biggrin:

[John Wright]

How quickly you forget what the murderers of Lee Rigby said about the West murdering Muslims in Muslim lands like Pakistan.

Did the murderers mention anything about the tens of thousands of Muslims killed by other Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq during the last 20 years? Or are those statistics not part of their Islamic education/conversion?