Are we safe? Suspected terrorist attack in London this afternoon

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Oh dear! :sadface:

Was Jack Straw one of the many people you've met with "such low social capability that they will embrace any cause", Pabs? :sadface:

[Pabmusic]

Was Jack Straw one of the many people you've met with "such low social capability that they will embrace any cause", Pabs? :sadface:

A very interesting point, Ferney. In 1998 I'd have denied it (he was my ultimate boss then). Now ... well ... :whistle:

[Too often we think that politicians are intelligent.]

[scottycelt]

hmmm check out Fox News [owned by ykw].

Fox Noos is not a news channel, it is a far-right Republican propaganda mouthpiece under a wholly dishonest guise.

It's puerile bunch of moronic badge-sporting commentators have often sneered at 'home-grown' British terrorism claiming it could never happen in the great Shining City On A Hill.

Well it has happened ..., at Boston. Fox Noos obviously considers its regular viewers to be total idiots and that is probably the only thing it may well have got absolutely right.

[amateur51]

Fox Noos is not a news channel, it is a far-right Republican propaganda mouthpiece under a wholly dishonest guise.

It's puerile bunch of moronic badge-sporting commentators have often sneered at 'home-grown' British terrorism claiming it could never happen in the great Shining City On A Hill.

Well it has happened ..., at Boston. Fox Noos obviously considers its regular viewers to be total idiots and that is probably the only thing it may well have got absolutely right.

Blimey scotty - straight from the shoulder, bravo :ela::ok::biggrin:

[amateur51]

A very interesting point, Ferney. In 1998 I'd have denied it (he was my ultimate boss then). Now ... well ... :whistle:

[Too often we think that politicians are intelligent.]

I have no doubt that Jack Straw has huge political intelligence - witness shopping his son William to the rozzers when William was entrapped by a newspaper 'honeytrap' into revealing that he could 'supply' some recreational drugs. The LibDems and others have argued long & hard that the proposed extension of the law is in fact a snoopers' charter, as sufficient powers already exist. As a former Home Secretary, Straw knows just how 'handy' the extension would be :erm:

[teamsaint]

I don't have much time for most professional politicians.

But words fail me when it comes to jack straw.

He is ..oh you don't need me to put it into nasty words.........

[Beef Oven]

I am most reassured that in some of the media there is reporting of reactions from Muslim Communities

They were always going to MrGG, and well you knew it!

Now pass the sandals to someone else to do the R3ForumThang

P.S. I've forgotten did Petrock get back safely?

[Pabmusic]

I have no doubt that Jack Straw has huge political intelligence - witness shopping his son William to the rozzers when William was entrapped by a newspaper 'honeytrap' into revealing that he could 'supply' some recreational drugs. The LibDems and others have argued long & hard that the proposed extension of the law is in fact a snoopers' charter, as sufficient powers already exist. As a former Home Secretary, Straw knows just how 'handy' the extension would be :erm:

I don't have much time for most professional politicians.

But words fail me when it comes to jack straw.

He is ..oh you don't need me to put it into nasty words.........

I watched the Panorama documentary on the shameful Hillsborough disaster the other day (thank goodness for iPlayer and proxy servers!). Now I'm no football fan (I still haven't worked out what they do with the ball) but I really felt for the Liverpool fans.

Jack Straw appeared and tried to explain his role in a review of the original enquiry. It was obvious (oh so obvious) that he was deeply embarrassed because he'd engineered the conclusion that was expected of him. Well, I'm not interested in his embarrassment - it's his integrity that is suspect. :sadface:

[MrGongGong]

They were always going to MrGG, and well you knew it!

I certainly didn't
the media have very rarely reported condemnation by the 'Muslim Community'
preferring to stick to the 'enemy in our midst' narrative

[french frank]

Re Straw (the man said to have opposed ID cards) - it's been said.

I have, unfortunately, met many people who have such low social capability that they will embrace any cause that can be seen as being against the establishment. It does seem as if that is what might lie (in part at least) behind this.

Yes, when we're dealing with a seemingly British-born individual, said to have had a 'Christian background', one wonders whether it wasn't the cause, rather than the religion, that had appeal.

[Pabmusic]

...when we're dealing with a seemingly British-born individual, said to have had a 'Christian background', one wonders whether it wasn't the cause, rather than the religion, that had appeal.

That's exactly what I thought. Tragic, isn't it? :sadface:

[Beef Oven]

I certainly didn't
the media have very rarely reported condemnation by the 'Muslim Community'
preferring to stick to the 'enemy in our midst' narrative

No the media takes a responsible role in these things, otherwise it could have consequences that would do harm. Same thing with the Stockholm riots, migrant youths, apparently mainly Muslim, rioting for 5 days before the BBC covered it in a usual manner.

It's a very difficult call for the press and in my opinion they do a good job in ensuring that things don't get stirred up and made worse. Even though it may compromise their journalistic professionalism and impinges on free speech. The greater good principles rules, so away with conspiracy theories.

[MrGongGong]

It's a very difficult call for the press and in my opinion they do a good job in ensuring that things don't get stirred up and made worse. .

indeed of course they do

http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/e1670308-785312.jpg

erm

[Beef Oven]

indeed of course they do

http://www.septicisle.info/uploaded_images/e1670308-785312.jpg

erm

That link is broken, but glad you agree with me all the same :ok:

[amateur51]

That link is broken, but glad you agree with me all the same :ok:

Works fine for me :ok: