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scottycelt
Originally posted by Richard Barrett View PostWhich dictionary does this come from?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
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Richard Barrett
Originally posted by scottycelt View Posthave you ever thought of trying WIKI ...?
Wikipedia: "The far left seeks equality of outcome and the dismantlement of all forms of social stratification. Far leftists seek to abolish all forms of hierarchy, particularly the inequitable distribution of wealth and power. The far left seeks a society in which everyone is provided equal economic and social opportunities, and no one has excessive wealth or power over others."
Scottypedia: "The Extreme Left consists of those who are not prepared to work within the capitalist system but simply wish to destroy it by exploiting its weaknesses, and the most extreme of those by any means."
So you're really saying these two definitions are equivalent, right? :laugh:
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostI have no prejudices in the matter other than stating the rather obvious ... that an Anarchist believes in Anarchy, a Catholic in Catholicism and a Communist in Communism. If not, the English language is suddenly in deep trouble.
And if someone wants to know what Communism is (or Catholicism), they read a book on Communism (or Catholicism, depending which they want to know about): they don't consult a dictionary. Furthermore, teaching a foreign language demonstrates students' propensity for misusing dictionaries: Just because a dictionary defines a word in more than one way, it doesn't mean that, in every context, every definition applies. In similar vein, there are many shades of meaning to Anarchism: it is not necessary, in every case, for someone to wave a flag, daub symbols - or even engage in violence: they can be pacifists. Which is why fhg (forgive me if this was obvious) chose to define 'a Catholic' in a very narrow, derogatory way, to show that your definition of 'Anarchist' was similary narrow and derogatory.
There are loads of articles on Wikipedia about Anarchism, the History of Anarchism &c. which provide more information than a dictionary.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View PostThe good news is that the English language is not so imperilled. If a Communist believes in Communism (and a Catholic in Catholicism), an Anarchist believes in Anarchism, not 'anarchy' (which is a state or condition, like 'Heaven').
And if someone wants to know what Communism is (or Catholicism), they read a book on Communism (or Catholicism, depending which they want to know about): they don't consult a dictionary. Furthermore, teaching a foreign language demonstrates students' propensity for misusing dictionaries: Just because a dictionary defines a word in more than one way, it doesn't mean that, in every context, every definition applies. In similar vein, there are many shades of meaning to Anarchism: it is not necessary, in every case, for someone to wave a flag, daub symbols - or even engage in violence: they can be pacifists. Which is why fhg (forgive me if this was obvious) chose to define 'a Catholic' in a very narrow, derogatory way, to show that your definition of 'Anarchist' was similary narrow and derogatory.
There are loads of articles on Wikipedia about Anarchism, the History of Anarchism &c. which provide more information than a dictionary.[FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]
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Originally posted by scottycelt View PostNo, what you mean by 'justified kicking' is the usual personal abuse directed against one particular member. It is not clever, serves no purpose and ruins proper debate.
People talk about the 'Far Right', 'capitalists' etc in pejorative terms. Also, many on the Left use words like 'racist', sexist', 'toffs' and much worse on this forum alone.
Anarchists are anarchists. They tend to wave red and black banners and wear masks on demos. I'm rather loathe to yet again incur the scorn of amateur51 by suggesting a proper definition may well lie in a dictionary, but it is all I can suggest in the circumstances.
The Extreme Left consists of those who are not prepared to work within the capitalist system but simply wish to destroy it by exploiting its weaknesses, and the most extreme of those by any means. There are various ideologies, but Marxism, to which some members here clearly adhere, is the most obvious.
Would anyone here have any real difficulty in easily identifying the Far Right and seriously wonder how to describe the politics of Nicholas John Griffin or members of the English Defence League?
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