Boston Marathon: Is terrorism ever justified?

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  • scottycelt

    Originally posted by Sir Velo View Post
    This "right to bear arms" is a bit of an urban myth. In 2008, the US Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment "codified a pre-existing right" and that it "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home but also stated that "the right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".
    Yes, but does that not amount in practice to much the same thing ... in other words, every gun purchased by a customer is for 'self-defense within the home'?

    The Newtown mass-murderer had a vast array of weaponry including those previously purchased by his own mother, apparently.

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    • amateur51

      Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
      Yes, but does that not amount in practice to much the same thing ... in other words, every gun purchased by a customer is for 'self-defense within the home'?

      The Newtown mass-murderer had a vast array of weaponry including those previously purchased by his own mother, apparently.
      Political correctness gone mad, innit :erm::winkeye:

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      • Mr Pee
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3285

        New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg says the Boston bombing suspects planned to detonate the rest of their explosives in Times Square.
        Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

        Mark Twain.

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        • scottycelt

          Originally posted by remdataram View Post
          Instead of getting sucked into this any further, I'm going to listen to some ... Mahler.......
          Are you absolutely sure you've come to the right decision ... ? :oh:

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          • Bryn
            Banned
            • Mar 2007
            • 24688

            The reports surrounding this latest information do now confirm that Tsarnaev was indeed interrogated extensively before the 'Miranda' rights were applied. It is reported that the information re. Time Square was given during questioning over last weekend.

            This, however, raises new questions regarding the manner of his arrest.

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            • remdataram
              Full Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 154

              Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
              Are you absolutely sure you've come to the right decision ... ? :oh:
              I'm touched by your concern!:biggrin:

              Each to their own, I was trying to swing the 'discussion' towards matters musical........ Schubert ok?

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              • Nick Armstrong
                Host
                • Nov 2010
                • 26516

                Originally posted by remdataram View Post
                I'm touched by your concern!:biggrin:

                Each to their own, I was trying to swing the 'discussion' towards matters musical........ Schubert ok?
                A valiant effort :ok:

                Maybe Ibert's "Bostoniana" would be a topical alternative?


                Jacques Ibert Bostoniana(1955) Dir: Charles Dutoit Orchestre Symphonique de Montral (1992)
                "...the isle is full of noises,
                Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                • Mr Pee
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3285

                  Originally posted by Bryn View Post

                  This, however, raises new questions regarding the manner of his arrest.
                  You know what? I couldn't care less about the manner of his arrest. He is in custody and no longer a danger to the public.

                  End of. :bubbly:
                  Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                  Mark Twain.

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                  • Bryn
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 24688

                    Originally posted by Mr Pee View Post
                    You know what? I couldn't care less about the manner of his arrest. He is in custody and no longer a danger to the public.

                    End of. :bubbly:
                    No surprise there. Why would you be concerned that the original reports from the relevant authorities claimed that the surviving Tsarnaev opened fire on them, and that they returned fire. They can, after all, do no wrong. Who knows, perhaps they will find the gun he used, wrapped in a sock behind a hedge, but with no trace of his fingerprints or DNA on it?

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                    • Mr Pee
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3285

                      Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                      No surprise there. Why would you be concerned that the original reports from the relevant authorities claimed that the surviving Tsarnaev opened fire on them, and that they returned fire. They can, after all, do no wrong. Who knows, perhaps they will find the gun he used, wrapped in a sock behind a hedge, but with no trace of his fingerprints or DNA on it?
                      Does it matter? He'd already been involved in the bombing of civilians, the death of one police officer and the critical injury of another, and it now transpires that had he not been stopped, he was planning to bomb Times Square.

                      Are you surprised that there are conflicting reports about his arrest? It was a fast-moving situation, and inevitably confused.

                      Perhaps the real problem is that everybody expects quick, tidy, and simple explanations of operations that are none of those things.

                      I really couldn't care less about the fine details of how they got him. I am just thankful that they did.
                      Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.

                      Mark Twain.

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                      • teamsaint
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 25190

                        it certainly was fast moving, when was the trial?
                        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                        • Bryn
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 24688

                          Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
                          it certainly was fast moving, when was the trial?
                          I think you will find that Pee and Scotty held it the day before the bombings.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                            I think you will find that Pee and Scotty held it the day before the bombings.
                            Seems fine to me
                            all we need to do is to get the baddies to wear something that everyone can see on their clothes
                            then it will make the job of the police much easier and, more importantly, save a vast amount of money !

                            (carefully avoiding Godwin, of course :cool:)

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                            • scottycelt

                              Originally posted by Bryn View Post
                              I think you will find that Pee and Scotty held it the day before the bombings.
                              Desperate stuff, Bryn ...

                              Some here would appear to have already found the Boston area police forces "guilty" of successfully catching a suspected urban bomber (to the obvious joy and relief of the terrified residents).

                              A truly weird and eccentric sense of "justice", imv.

                              Furthermore, it is somewhat difficult to have a trial without a preceding capture of a suspect, and when the legal trial does commence I feel confident the same members will howl loudly that the trial itself is "unfair" and should be halted.:whistle:

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                              • amateur51

                                Originally posted by scottycelt View Post
                                Desperate stuff, Bryn ...

                                Some here would appear to have already found the Boston area police forces "guilty" of successfully catching a suspected urban bomber (to the obvious joy and relief of the terrified residents).

                                A truly weird and eccentric sense of "justice", imv.

                                Furthermore, it is somewhat difficult to have a trial without a preceding capture of a suspect, and when the legal trial does commence I feel confident the same members will howl loudly that the trial itself is "unfair" and should be halted.:whistle:
                                Well there's been so much reckless misinformation from the authorities so far I'll be surprised if the suspect's lawyers don't pursue that route (pronounced to rhyme with "doubt") during his defence.

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