Huhne

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

no my point was that speeding is an offence that is also committed by women, that the pressure of everyday life will lead you to it easily and that the bar stewards are getting quite cunning in raising their revenues by fines yes injuring or killing someone through negligent or worse driving is insufferable and unforgivable ... my point is that a reasonably ordinary human being can quite readily amass a few points ..if you want to sit in judgement on them ok, whatever turns you on .... it is a minor offence .... now Huhne and his wife falsified a statement as to who was driiving [and how many ahve done just that i wonder?] ...m'ludships take very poorly to disrespect for the law and its processes ... so they are in the nick mainly because their family blew up and it all came out ...the family situation is tragic


i find the interest in this case and the personal attacks on Huhne absolutely appalling ... remind me , who may cast the first stone?

[Mr Pee]

on her speeding course which she did perversely envoy the tutor was most explicit that thirty mph feels like one is walking, it is slow and feels slow ... so you get done for doing forty in order not miss the dentist etc ...

many people speed, it is not all boys toys and Jeremy C

It only feels slow in relation to fast.....30mph is 30mph, and it's still pretty quick. A lot of the problem is modern cars, that are so quiet and insulated from the outside world that even 70 or 80 feels like 40. Just because many people speed does not make it any more acceptable.

And if you're speeding to get to the dentist- leave 5 minutes earlier. :erm:

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

forgive me the patronising advice, my point was quite different

who may cast the first stone?

[Resurrection Man]

.... The best cameras are the 'average speed' ones that cover a long stretch of road.

Oh yes..they really are the best ones. Especially along the motorway on a Sunday morning when there are (a) no workmen and (b) no other vehicles...mile after mile after mile ....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz....did I fall asleep, just then?

It's not speed. It is the wrong speed for the road conditions. You can drive within the speed limit and be much more of a danger to other road users, pedestrians etc.

[mangerton]

Speed limits are there for a reason. Much of my drive to work is on a route used by workers in the local hospital. I am appalled by both the speed that some of these characters drive at, and by the fact that they tail gate. It's a 30 mph limit through streets busy with houses and a school.

You'd think, working in a hospital, and dealing with the effects of "accidents", that they'd know better.

[LeMartinPecheur]

BUt my experience is that when people know where a speed camera is there they immediately slow down while they drive across the markings on the road, & then speed up again once they are safely out of range. So the camera has no over-all effect. If people know there are cameras, but not where, then they are more likely to stick to the speed limit (except for those who 'allow' their number plates to become so dirty they can't be seen). The best cameras are the 'average speed' ones that cover a long stretch of road.

Am I the only one who gets cross when drivers bang on their anchors just before a dual-carriageway camera apparently in the belief that the speed limit is 60mph??

Another curiosity is a traffic info sign nearby on the A30 giving us timings for the 64 miles to Exeter. Usually it says 60min implying an average speed of 64mph which is fine. But several times I've seen it saying 55 min, an average speed (assuming the distance is exact) of over 69.8mph. It's a very clever trick to achieve this average without ever going over 70!

[jean]

Women still need Vicky Pryce's 'marital coercion' plea

When Vicky Pryce pleaded 'marital coercion’, many judged it an outdated defence. Ashley Fitton, the only woman to have successfully used the plea against a motoring charge, argues that it is still very necessary.

[french frank]

In that case, so do men.

[alycidon]

in the case of someone like Huhne, a multi-millionaire with a high value property portfolio that means he doesn't actually NEED to work for a living, the financial penalty is negligible

Oh, and there was me beginning to feel a tad sorry for him because he has incurred £108,000 costs!:laugh:

[Flosshilde]

You can feel less - or more? - sorry for him as he's appealing against the costs, saying that he should only pay a quarter because applications he made "resulted in documentation relating to Constance Briscoe coming to light, which led to allegations being made against her".. Presumably he reckons the other £75,000 are due to him as fees for fingering Briscoe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/22/chris-huhne-claim-prosecution-costs

[amateur51]

You can feel less - or more? - sorry for him as he's appealing against the costs, saying that he should only pay a quarter because applications he made "resulted in documentation relating to Constance Briscoe coming to light, which led to allegations being made against her".. Presumably he reckons the other £75,000 are due to him as fees for fingering Briscoe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...secution-costs

Dear oh dear - he has serious attitude problems this one. :erm:

[Bryn]

Dear oh dear - he has serious attitude problems this one. :erm:

Indeed, nice of him to try and shift the responsibility for paying for his criminal behaviour onto us rather than facing up to his own responsibility for the prosecution and its associated costs.

[ferneyhoughgeliebte]

Be fair, Bryn! A politician "facing up to his own responsibilit[ies]"? He'd need a lot of counselling and "Bullshit Management" before that's going to happen!

[mercia]

oh well, that's that - all's well that ends well

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22507000

[Serial_Apologist]

Huhn owes