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  • visualnickmos
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3610

    Originally posted by jean View Post
    As for the 'major party' thing - it does get pretty annoying when the BBC and others are prepared to elevate UKIP to that status while still ignoring the Greens entirely.
    I couldn't agree more.

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    • ahinton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 16123

      Originally posted by jean View Post
      As for the 'major party' thing - it does get pretty annoying when the BBC and others are prepared to elevate UKIP to that status while still ignoring the Greens entirely.
      Indeed, although I suspect that the term "major party" may soon be seen to have had its day altogether...

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      • Richard Barrett

        I think there might be something in this. The stated policies of the Greens are certainly more in tune with what most people actually want than those of any of the other parties. But there's so much (deliberately) inbuilt inertia in the system. Also Joschka Fischer as German foreign minister in a Green-SPD coalition committed some Clegg-like reversals of party policy, like committing the German military to active combat service for the first time since the Second World War, so Greens do have some form in not living up to their principles.

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        • jean
          Late member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7100

          Don't remind me.

          At least we do have proper worked-out policies, which UKIP do not.

          (That of course will make it all the easier for them to renege on their policies, supposing they do come to power...and the electorate won't be able to say it wasn't warned.)

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          • amateur51

            Originally posted by jean View Post
            You can find all the Green party's policies here.
            If you have any influence on such documents jean, could you suggest that they need an executive summary/list of headline policies to stick before this detailed list please? it's all good stuff but I lost the will to live.

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            • ahinton
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 16123

              Originally posted by jean View Post
              Don't remind me.

              At least we do have proper worked-out policies, which UKIP do not.

              (That of course will make it all the easier for them to renege on their policies, supposing they do come to power...and the electorate won't be able to say it wasn't warned.)
              Which of the two do you mean by "them"? Logic suggests that it is possible for a party to renege on policies only if it has policies in the first place and that, if UKIP has none or very few, it might be thought to have less on which to renege than others.

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              • amateur51

                Originally posted by jean View Post
                Don't remind me.

                At least we do have proper worked-out policies, which UKIP do not.

                (That of course will make it all the easier for them to renege on their policies, supposing they do come to power...and the electorate won't be able to say it wasn't warned.)
                What a chilling prospect

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                • visualnickmos
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3610

                  Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                  What a chilling prospect
                  Indeed.

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                  • visualnickmos
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3610

                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    If you have any influence on such documents jean, could you suggest that they need an executive summary/list of headline policies to stick before this detailed list please? it's all good stuff but I lost the will to live.
                    I second this request.

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                    • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                      Late member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 9173

                      interesting document about elitism in the UK by Milburn's unit

                      and this is their report in summary on poverty and inequality

                      apologies ahinton i have again imitated a reference you make to the excellent graun piece about the Tory economics narrative and why it is false ...
                      According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        Originally posted by aka Calum Da Jazbo View Post
                        interesting document about elitism in the UK by Milburn's unit

                        and this is their report in summary on poverty and inequality

                        apologies ahinton i have again imitated a reference you make to the excellent graun piece about the Tory economics narrative and why it is false ...
                        Absolutely no need to apologise! Nothing for which to do so!

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                        • aka Calum Da Jazbo
                          Late member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 9173

                          this translates quite well into UK politics as an antidote to the Toff Boy Narrative

                          also
                          According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                          • teamsaint
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 25210

                            gosh, documents shredded by mistake.



                            just unlucky I suppose.
                            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                            • Serial_Apologist
                              Full Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 37707

                              More like a nod and a wink, I would think.

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                              • teamsaint
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 25210



                                interesting take on various economic matters.

                                the answer would seem to be to give more spending power for those with modest means, instead of QE to shore up banks balance sheets and asset prices. Now who would have thought.......
                                I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                                I am not a number, I am a free man.

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