Iran

[Bryn]

Well, unless my eyesight is just as bad, it clearly states the comments of 'elimination' were made on Monday the 24th Sept 2012 ... where is the report dated 2006 (or 2005?)

Here's the link again on a different page!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/24/us-un-assembly-ahmadinejad-idUSBRE88N0HF20120924

...

"In 2005, Ahmadinejad called Israel a "tumor" and echoed the words of the former Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, by saying that Israel should be wiped off the map."

[scottycelt]

The recently deceased Cardinal Martini ...

Yes, he died a month ago, amsey, so what does he now have to say about Ahmadinejad's chilling outburst a few days ago, then.

Being an Italian, maybe he has been consulting with his spaghetti monster friends first before making yet another infallible pronouncement? :winkeye:

[amateur51]

Yes, he died a month ago, amsey, so what does he now have to say about Ahmadinejad's chilling outburst a few days ago, then.

Oddly enough his thoughts are on this are not recorded - perhaps you could aspire to silent wisdom such as Cardinal Martini's, scotty? :whistle:

[amateur51]

For a second time recently (the first time being Mrs May's refusal to extradite Mr McKinnon) it appears that the UK poodle is standing up to the USA - how refreshing! :ok:

Britain has rebuffed US pleas to use military bases in the UK to support the build-up of forces in the Gulf, citing secret legal advice which states that any pre-emptive strike on Iran could be in breach of international law.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/25/uk-reject-us-request-bases-iran

[heliocentric]

secret legal advice which states that any pre-emptive strike (...) could be in breach of international law.

Where have I heard that before? But yes, if something has been learned from the catastrophic military adventures of 2002 and 2003 (one of them still coughing up a regular miasma of death and misery, of course) all well and good.

[vinteuil]

if something has been learned from the catastrophic military adventures of 2002 and 2003 (one of them still coughing up a regular miasma of death and misery, of course) all well and good.

... that is my fervent hope. If the quagmire of Iraq and Afghanistan can at least have taught the West ... ( ... but then we might not be where we are if anyone in the FCO had been able to instruct Tony Blair in a little history - such as the various disastrous British adventures in Afghanistan in the nineteenth century... :erm: . :sadface: )

[amateur51]

... that is my fervent hope. If the quagmire of Iraq and Afghanistan can at least have taught the West ... ( ... but then we might not be where we are if anyone in the FCO had been able to instruct Tony Blair in a little history - such as the various disastrous British adventures in Afghanistan in the nineteenth century... :erm: . :sadface: )

But Prof Simon works on-and-off at the FCO vints :yikes:

Oh ye of little faith :biggrin:

[aeolium]

I think a US attack on Iran is significantly less likely if Obama wins a second term in November. There does appear to be an awareness within his administration of the huge cost in money, men and reputation of the Iraq and Afghanistan debacles, as well as the enormous regional tension created by the Arab Spring and especially the Syrian civil war. With Romney, anything is possible (and even probable)....

Here it's hard to see any support within the coalition administration for an attack on Iran, partly because of Libdem opposition but also because of an awareness of how unpopular military action without international and UN backing was in and after 2003. It would be good to see a repudiation by Labour of Blair's Middle Eastern foreign policy but I don't recall seeing anything substantial yet.

Israel might well risk unilateral action but post-US election with Obama re-elected that would be a major gamble which might leave it isolated and facing a huge regional backlash. They'd much rather follow up US intervention and so will be hoping for Romney to get in on Nov 6th.

[Simon]

But Prof Simon works on-and-off at the FCO vints

Will you please stop perpetrating lies on this messageboard.

[amateur51]

Will you please stop perpetrating lies on this messageboard.

I'm merely repeating what you have posted on the this board, Simon. If you say it isn't so, then I retract, of course but it is not a 'lie' :erm:

[Simon]

I'm merely repeating what you have posted on the this board, Simon. If you say it isn't so, then I retract, of course but it is not a 'lie' :erm:

It most certainly is. If you have genuinely forgotten what I said, then I accept it. But if you are deliberately not bothering to be accurate just to make your sniping point, then it does you no credit.

Past jobs are probably not that important, but I don't think any of us is wise to discuss our current work on here. My spell with the FCO was quite some time ago. I have no connection now.

[MrGongGong]

but I don't think any of us is wise to discuss our current work on here. .

:oh:

The new Bond movie got into your head prof ?

or have you moved "sideways" to become head of Media Studies ?

[amateur51]

It most certainly is. If you have genuinely forgotten what I said, then I accept it. But if you are deliberately not bothering to be accurate just to make your sniping point, then it does you no credit.

Past jobs are probably not that important, but I don't think any of us is wise to discuss our current work on here. My spell with the FCO was quite some time ago. I have no connection now.

What a shame you can't accept a straightforward situation as just that but have to infer a sniping motive. If you have had a connection with FCO then my comment was only wrong in being out of date, surely and to call it a lie is excessive & I hope that you will retract & apologise.

[heliocentric]

The new Bond movie got into your head prof ?

:laugh:

Says. Simon Says.

It does have a certain ring to it.

[Thropplenoggin]

Israel's trial run: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...rstrike-israel

Will anyone condone this act of aggression? The UN? Unlikely.