The poppy thread

[Beef Oven!]

Quite :ok:

Quite!?

You're always banging on about false dichotomies!!!

[Stillhomewardbound]

I got my poppy this week from a RN Commander who had an impressive array of campaign medals (about seven) and an OBE. He was, as AA Hancock might have said, 'a very good conversationalist', but being of the senior service, he never nicked me wine gums!!

[aeolium]

I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this article, and particularly the idea that "history is worth far more than the illusion of memory":

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/31/world-war-one-poppies-memorial-cameron

[Mary Chambers]

I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this article, and particularly the idea that "history is worth far more than the illusion of memory":

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...morial-cameron

I thought that was good, too, and also his earlier article on the subject.

I went through a white poppy phase, but now I don't wear one at all. This year I am going to try to ignore the whole thing, and not get cross as I normally do.

[Beef Oven!]

I agree with most of the sentiments expressed in this article, and particularly the idea that "history is worth far more than the illusion of memory":

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...morial-cameron

Jones never has much to say, so he gets attention by being provocative. Did you get taken in with his rants about Wikipedia and blogging too?

I sometimes think that if the Guardian ran a story about the colour of orange juice being blue, much of its readership would agree with the 'sentiments', too.

[jean]

The problem with Jones's stance is that you cannot know what the poppies mean to the people who look at them.

Nobody who sees them now has not also seen the images of carnage; nobody can possibly not know what happened. Jones comes over to me as rather holier-than-thou and I began to think the same about wearing a white poppy, which is why I don't any more.

[Beef Oven!]

http://beta.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29861969

[amateur51]

http://beta.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-29861969

Looks so reminiscent of the scenes outside Kensington Palace in late Summer 1997.

[Beef Oven!]

Oscar sums up Professional football's respect for next weekend's important day - amazing player, wrong club :biggrin:


http://i.imgur.com/9yU503k.jpg

[MrGongGong]

[SIZE=3]Oscar sums up Professional football's respect for next weekend's important day -

Have you been drinking ?

I would say that this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7MwXniOD44

Probably says more than a load of overpaid kickers of imitation sheep bladders wearing a badge

[doversoul1]

The problem with Jones's stance is that you cannot know what the poppies mean to the people who look at them.

Nobody who sees them now has not also seen the images of carnage; nobody can possibly not know what happened. Jones comes over to me as rather holier-than-thou and I began to think the same about wearing a white poppy, which is why I don't any more.

If you mean those Tower of London poppies, I’d have thought it was obvious: those people wanted to see the new London attraction they’d heard about. They probably had nice lunch afterwards with their conscience clear now that they thought about the War or at least a war. Why else would you want to see ceramic poppies displayed at a tourist site?

Everybody has seen the images of carnages but do these images mean anything beyond a neat set of reference that pops up with the word ‘WWI’? And aren’t these images mostly, if not all, about how ‘our boys and men suffered in the trenches’? How much do these images tell us about what and why about the war?

I suppose all this may depend on what kind of ‘we’ you / we belong to.

[Beef Oven!]

Have you been drinking ?

I would say that this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7MwXniOD44

Probably says more than a load of overpaid kickers of imitation sheep bladders wearing a badge

Great Vid MrGG, your finger is, as always, on the musical pulse and (as usual) you are way ahead of the game. BUT, this is football and you can't use sacrilegious terms like "over-paid kickers", or 'imitation sheep bladders'. Heresy is unacceptable in football. Racism, sometimes - heresy, never.

[jean]

...I suppose all this may depend on what kind of ‘we’ you / we belong to.

I'm saying that nobody can really presume to know that of anyone else.

[Beef Oven!]

It's not just the faux-lefties in this forum that don't like the poppy :sadface: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-29870960

[amateur51]

It's not just the faux-lefties in this forum that don't like the poppy :sadface: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-29870960

As the police spokesperson quoted in the article said, nothing is known about this attacker's motives.

Perhaps he was drunk or off his face?

It happens, even here