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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
    As has been pointed out, HAs are charities and it's a fundamental principle of charity law that they ARE NOT PERMITTED to get rid of their assets for less than their full value. For good and very obvious reasons.

    Still, a few scraps of poorly written new law and that silly idea can be very quickly blown away!
    Indeed
    But who trusts Dave and chums?

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    • Eine Alpensinfonie
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 20570

      Originally posted by jean View Post
      One hates to admit it, but the Express is right:

      http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...representation
      I don't recall this being the Express's view in earlier contests.

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30259

        Some way you have to get through to people that a preferential voting system doesn't mean that some people 'get more than one vote', or some people's vote is 'worth more' than other people's vote.
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • ferneyhoughgeliebte
          Gone fishin'
          • Sep 2011
          • 30163

          Originally posted by Eine Alpensinfonie View Post
          I don't recall this being the Express's view in earlier contests.
          Indeed :winkeye:

          OVER a weekend which saw Russia’s President Vladimir Putin order his army to take control of parts of Ukraine it is a little bizarre that the one person being accused of fascism was a man who complained that he feels “slightly awkward” when his fellow train passengers are speaking only foreign languages and who defended a comedian who joked about Polish plumbers and Somalian pirates.
          [FONT=Comic Sans MS][I][B]Numquam Satis![/B][/I][/FONT]

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          • gurnemanz
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7382

            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            NO he/she isn't

            MPs represent themselves, their mates, their party and down at the bottom some of their constituents

            The rejection of the Libdems is a demonstration of this, (in spite of all their good local work).

            There's a lot of received wisdom banded about about what "democratic" means
            Maybe I am deluded, but there does seem to be potential for someone to be a "good constituency MP". One big reason why Ed Balls is no longer an MP is that he was perceived by many constituents not to be one.

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            • eighthobstruction
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 6433

              ....one bright light....Ester McVey got voted out....
              bong ching

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              • french frank
                Administrator/Moderator
                • Feb 2007
                • 30259

                Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                Maybe I am deluded, but there does seem to be potential for someone to be a "good constituency MP". One big reason why Ed Balls is no longer an MP is that he was perceived by many constituents not to be one.
                Yes, most people have no direct connection with their MP, ever. But those who do can find them both helpful and very 'powerful' in helping constituents. There's no question asked about who they voted for.
                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                  Maybe I am deluded, but there does seem to be potential for someone to be a "good constituency MP". One big reason why Ed Balls is no longer an MP is that he was perceived by many constituents not to be one.
                  What's the point of having a "good constituency MP" if they facilitate others to do bad things?

                  No matter how "good" my MP is for the constituency I know he is quite prepared to make people suffer for his own career and to support his mates.

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                  • gurnemanz
                    Full Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7382

                    Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                    ....one bright light....Ester McVey got voted out....
                    .. and Nigel Farage. I don't think I could have stomached his holding forth in the House of Commons as he does in Strasbourg. We had considered emigration (still possible to the EU but probably not for long) if UKIP got anything like a sniff of power in our country.

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                    • Flosshilde
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 7988

                      Originally posted by LeMartinPecheur View Post
                      As has been pointed out, HAs are charities and it's a fundamental principle of charity law that they ARE NOT PERMITTED to get rid of their assets for less than their full value. For good and very obvious reasons.
                      Maybe, but the Tories' proposal, I think, is that the HAs would get the full market value but the buyer would get it at a discount, with the government making up the difference.

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                      • Flosshilde
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7988

                        Originally posted by gurnemanz View Post
                        .. and Nigel Farage. I don't think I could have stomached his holding forth in the House of Commons as he does in Strasbourg. We had considered emigration (still possible to the EU but probably not for long) if UKIP got anything like a sniff of power in our country.
                        Suggestions before Thursday were that, with the level they were polling at, under proportional representation they would have got something like 80 seats.

                        How did they do in the council elections?

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                          Maybe, but the Tories' proposal, I think, is that the HAs would get the full market value but the buyer would get it at a discount, with the government making up the difference.
                          :GRRRRRRR:

                          I'll come round your house, steal your stuff, sell it and give you some of the money

                          How anyone could justify this idea is beyond comprehension

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                          • subcontrabass
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 2780

                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            Is rocket science the most intellectually challenging science?
                            Rocket SCIENCE is basically very simple. It is rocket ENGINEERING (i.e. applying that science in order to make rockets work) that is difficult.

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                            • eighthobstruction
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 6433

                              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                              :GRRRRRRR:

                              I'll come round your house, steal your stuff, sell it and give you some of the money

                              How anyone could justify this idea is beyond comprehension
                              ....it is thought that the vast majority of renters/tenants are too poor to buy anyway/socially deprived/mental health problems etc ....But as you say theere will be a proportion that will be able to take advantage....
                              bong ching

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                              • jean
                                Late member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 7100

                                Originally posted by eighthobstruction View Post
                                ....it is thought that the vast majority of renters/tenants are too poor to buy anyway/socially deprived/mental health problems etc ...
                                The same it true for many in private rented accommodation. Why should those who just happen to rent from social landlords have this huge subsidy?

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