So long

[MrGongGong]

I suspect many folks will be off soon
so long to those who are

[Beef Oven!]

...........and thanks for all the fish.

[MrGongGong]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzMI_gXQllo

[Flosshilde]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy9_lfjQopU

[Beef Oven!]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoZ_eupjzYg

[teamsaint]

ah well...we'll just have to chat about music....nice polite conversations about Schubert's Unfinished and so on....whistleysmileything...

[MrGongGong]

ah well...we'll just have to chat about music....nice polite conversations about Schubert's Unfinished and so on....whistleysmileything...

Don't you think the quavers in bar 24 should be slurred ? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[teamsaint]

Don't you think the quavers in bar 24 should be slurred ? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Dont ask me , ask Bryn and Barbi...........

[Serial_Apologist]

24 hours to go till capitalist aesthetics on this forum is banned for good. What should we each do in this last chance saloon? Spell out our manifestos for a sane future?

[P. G. Tipps]

24 hours to go till capitalist aesthetics on this forum is banned for good. What should we each do in this last chance saloon? Spell out our manifestos for a sane future?

Nah ... who really wants to be sane, anyway?

Haven't you read Das Kapital ... ?

[Beef Oven!]

24 hours to go till capitalist aesthetics on this forum is banned for good. What should we each do in this last chance saloon? Spell out our manifestos for a sane future?

Final hours of the socialist political arm of this forum's editorship, but the forum's liberal metropolitan elite ethos remains!

Resist the leftist hegemony!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E72v6G9JHY

[french frank]

Say what you like! :-) I don't really conceive of 'Politics' as being so narrowly partisan/sectarian on a contemporary level as it's been here: theory, aesthetics and philosophical musings on why things are basically the same, or bear uncanny similarities in so many societies - and I could list other 'whys', but won't - seem more interesting than people adopting their opposing individual stances and not budging. Remember that Harry Enfield character? "You don't want to do it like that, you want to do it like THIS."

[Richard Barrett]

people adopting their opposing individual stances and not budging

If that's all you think it has been, I'm not surprised that you should wish to be rid of the inconvenience. I would see it somewhat differently. For me it's been pleasurable and enlightening to read the consistently serious contributions made here by several people, and to take part in discussions which have often caused me to form more coherently and with more supporting evidence what my thoughts and opinions are on some issue or other. (With what degree of success is another question.) One person's "narrowly partisan/sectarian" is another person's analytical and practical precision (or lack thereof). Choosing to remove the present opportunity for unrestricted debate and exchange of thoughts, however this opportunity might be squandered in some cases, is itself a political decision with ideological assumptions behind it.

[ahinton]

If that's all you think it has been, I'm not surprised that you should wish to be rid of the inconvenience. I would see it somewhat differently. For me it's been pleasurable and enlightening to read the consistently serious contributions made here by several people, and to take part in discussions which have often caused me to form more coherently and with more supporting evidence what my thoughts and opinions are on some issue or other. (With what degree of success is another question.) One person's "narrowly partisan/sectarian" is another person's analytical and practical precision (or lack thereof). Choosing to remove the present opportunity for unrestricted debate and exchange of thoughts, however this opportunity might be squandered in some cases, is itself a political decision with ideological assumptions behind it.

It's FF's call, of course, yet I cannot help but agree with what you write here. I, too, have been stimulated by quite a few ideas and thoughts put forward here and, whilst these have indeed had to rub shoulders with less engaging and constructive material, I think that it would be a great pity to lose the former for the sake of the latter; there have certainly been instances of "people adopting their opposing individual stances and not budging", these have tended to be a mere distraction from far more serious and though-provoking discussion in this section of the forum and I'm sure that plenty of contributors and readers would see it that way.

[MrGongGong]

It's FF's call, of course, yet I cannot help but agree with what you write here. I, too, have been stimulated by quite a few ideas and thoughts put forward here and, whilst these have indeed had to rub shoulders with less engaging and constructive material, I think that it would be a great pity to lose the former for the sake of the latter; there have certainly been instances of "people adopting their opposing individual stances and not budging", these have tended to be a mere distraction from far more serious and though-provoking discussion in this section of the forum and I'm sure that plenty of contributors and readers would see it that way.

I would also agree

Why does all discussion have to be conducted in the same way?
Why do people feel threatened by those who don't take themselves too seriously?

There is a "script" behind this IMV (apart from the status of the forum issue), I wonder what some of the folks who don't like this place would make of some of the comments on social media of many of the musicians that they idolise?

But maybe we should all "grow up" and join the civilised debating society?