Why is the "Truth" thread closed?

[Flosshilde]

Oh dear.

Don't you think that you're behaving like a boy with a ball who decides to take it away because he doesn't like the way the game is being played?

[french frank]

Q. Don't you think that you're behaving like a boy with a ball who decides to take it away because he doesn't like the way the game is being played?

A. No.

[Flosshilde]

I do. I think people with power should be careful how they exercise it.

[ahinton]

I do. I think people with power should be careful how they exercise it.

I think that people who accuse others of "behaving like a boy with a ball who decides to take it away because he doesn't like the way the game is being played" ought likewise to be careful as to how and towards whom they exercise their powers to accuse...

[jean]

(and Jean, I think that if you start up a topic you can hardly cry 'foul' & demand that people stop discussing it when people pick it up and develop it in ways that you perhaps don't like...

I think you are oversimplifying here - I didn't 'start a topic'; I thought I'd noticed something and it turned out I was completely wrong. I did not 'cry foul', nor did I 'demand' anything. I expressed a preference, that's all.

As anti-semitism and anti-Zionism/anti-Israel are yoked together by apologists for Israel it is extremely difficult to discuss one without discussing the other).

I don't believe this follows at all, but that really is neither here nor there; this board doesn't primarily exist for discussions of this sort, and there is no earthly reason why people shouldn't go and discuss it somewhere else.

[Flosshilde]

Which takes us back to the old question - is the Board (& its predecessor) solely for discussion about Radio3? If it is then there are many threads - including ones about, for example, charity shop purchases - that are not relevant.

[french frank]

I do. I think people with power should be careful how they exercise it.

Why don't you address the arguments that are laid out? They're not difficult.

The fact is FoR3 has a website and a Facebook presence; it doesn't need the forum. The least you could do, Floss, since you're not interested enough in FoR3 to register your support for our activities, is be grateful for the crumb you have got instead of muttering darkly that the forum administration 'should be careful' about how it uses its immense power. When the BBC, for whatever was the reason, closed down the messageboards it had every right to do so. The Terms and Conditions of this forum make it clear that we have too - "The moderator reserves the right to take any action deemed appropriate to ensure that this forum is not disrupted or abused. Threads may be closed or posts removed at the discretion of the moderator and without notice" and you signed up to that.

[Serial_Apologist]

I for one would be as worried if criticism of Israel, and/or discussion as to any or no connections can be argued between Zionism, antisemitism or the state of Israel were to be off-limits here on account of certain regulars getting upset on their mere mention, as I would be if, say, BeefOven!'s support for UKIP, were likewise disallowed on this forum. Once one starts banning subjects on other than advocacy of actual physical harm bases, there is no end to it, it seems to me.

[MrGongGong]

this board doesn't primarily exist for discussions of this sort, and there is no earthly reason why people shouldn't go and discuss it somewhere else.

I thought the title of this part was

"Politics & Current Affairs" ?

Sorry, I must be mistaken

SO to get back on topic

What's your favourite Andre Rieu album?

What do you think about Darren Henley being put in charge at the Arts Council of England?

(Actually we should be discussing the latter)

BeefOven!'s support for UKIP,

I've never noticed this?
I think he is having you on :whistle:

I know that if Holger Czukay phoned him up and told him to join the SWP he wouldn't hesitate.

[P. G. Tipps]

For goodness sake it doesn't matter what any member thinks about an administrator or host decision, they run this forum not the members.

If they don't like the way it is run they can either lump it or leave it ... it's really THAT simple!

Please stop moaning or ff might be tempted to close it altogether which, for all
its occasional personal irritants, would be a great shame, IMO.

[Serial_Apologist]

For goodness sake it doesn't matter what any member thinks about an administrator or host decision, they run this forum not the members.

If they don't like the way it is run they can either lump it or leave it ... it's really THAT simple!

Please stop moaning or ff might be tempted to close it altogether which, for all
its occasional personal irritants, would be a great shame, IMO.

Hmmm

That strikes me as a pretext for the SHOUTY people to get their way every time a so-say "sensitive" issue hits the headlines, ready to be taken up.

[P. G. Tipps]

Hmmm

That strikes me as a pretext for the SHOUTY people to get their way every time a so-say "sensitive" issue hits the headlines, ready to be taken up.

It doesn't matter a scrap what strikes you, me or any other member!

Can't you and others not grasp that ... ?

[french frank]

That strikes me as a pretext for the SHOUTY people to get their way every time a so-say "sensitive" issue hits the headlines, ready to be taken up.

The argument has been laid out. There are SHOUTY people on both sides. They are the reason threads get closed.

Yes, Gongers, this forum is called Politics and Current Affairs - I regret starting it most days of my life. The main benefit is that 95% of the silliness of a small handful of members can be contained here where it's less obvious to the rest of the world and MUCH easier to ignore. But not always - as happened a couple of days ago.

This is a small, obscure forum. Having rules about how people behave - and even what they can and can't discuss - is not some massive assault on freedom of speech.

If those who object were to just go away, the forum could then concentrate on music, the arts and Radio 3.

[MrGongGong]

Yes, Gongers, this forum is called Politics and Current Affairs - I regret starting it most days of my life. .

It is your gig
and you could simply close it if you wanted to

There is (as i'm sure you are more than aware) a very deep connection between what is discussed here and music, the arts and Radio 3.

What do you think about the appointment of mr Henley to ACE?

[Flosshilde]

since you're not interested enough in FoR3 to register your support for our activities,

I keep thinking I should do, given the splendid work you do, but I never quite get round to it (like so many other things I mean to do)

Threads may be closed or posts removed at the discretion of the moderator and without notice" and you signed up to that.

Absolutely, & I'm quite happy with that. However, my point is that trhe thread in question wasn't closed by the moderator, but by the initiator, one of the hosts, presumably (but I don't know, obviously) without discussing it with the moderator. I thought that on fora such as this it was the moderator/s who made the final decisions about closing threads, removing posts, etc, based on firm criteria.