Militant students at Warwick

[Beef Oven!]

So how much did you know about Emily Thornberry before the episode in question? and is a knowledge of the names of minor shadow cabinet members (or of the term "faux-left") really a prerequisite to having a grasp of political affairs?

I always knew where the Falklands are!!

[Beef Oven!]

But what did matter a lot was that he could get out of being Lord Stansgate.

If he hadn't been able to do that, he couldn't have stood for a seat in the Commons.

I hadn't realised that. But he didn't need to change his name from Anthony Wedgwood, did he?

[P. G. Tipps]

Well there you are - I don't have a TV and if I did I wouldn't have access to British programmes. I agree with you about discussing the term "faux-left" - that's precisely why I've been asking what it means and who it refers to, without receiving much enlightenment.

Now you're beginning to sound a lot like your forum admirer ...

You have been told time and again what it means and indeed you seemed to tacitly accept that when you requested other examples apart from Ms Abbott!

Certainly other socialists don't appear to have your faux-comprehension problem ...

http://www.liberationnews.org/faux-marxism-international-socialist-organization/

[MrGongGong]

I always knew where the Falklands are!!

But your chums seem unaware how many miles away France is

[teamsaint]

But your chums seem unaware how many miles away France is

from where?

[MrGongGong]

from where?

Dover

Immediately withdraw from the Common Fisheries Policy and take back control of British waters up to 200 nautical miles from the UK

[teamsaint]

Dover

the ever useful phrase "Up to"....... seems to cover that .

up to 70% off...

[Richard Barrett]

You have been told time and again what it means and indeed you seemed to tacitly accept that when you requested other examples apart from Ms Abbott!

The reasons I was asking for examples is that you and BO (and Rod Liddle, whoever he is) seem to think this "faux-leftism" has an enormous influence on public discourse and particularly on "political correctness" but on the other hand seem unable or unwilling to give examples of the mechanism by which this works, apart from naming a number of not-particularly-influential Labour politicians, plus Billy Bragg of whom I would imagine not many people under the age of forty have heard at all.

[MrGongGong]

the ever useful phrase "Up to"....... seems to cover that .

up to 70% off...

Slippery Kippers seem to have ditched the 40 mile "exclusion zone"
But there are plenty more bonkers ideas in the pipeline

Bring back the ‘three Rs’

That'll be

'reading, wroughting & 'arithmetic' then

[jean]

... But he didn't need to change his name from Anthony Wedgwood, did he?

He didn't change it exactly - Tony is quite a common abbreviation for Anthony, and who bothers with their middle name unless they're American?

[Beef Oven!]

He didn't change it exactly - Tony is quite a common abbreviation for Anthony, and who bothers with their middle name unless they're American?

Shocking stereotype. I'm disappointed.

[Richard Barrett]

He didn't change it exactly - Tony is quite a common abbreviation for Anthony,

Bear in mind that he could also have styled himself the second Viscount Stansgate until he disclaimed this title in 1963 (as soon as the Peerage Act of that year enabled him to do so). But what he chose to call himself is hardly relevant to his work in politics, surely.

[jean]

Shocking stereotype. I'm disappointed.

I put it in just for you.

[Beef Oven!]

I put it in just for you.

No excuse for stereotyping 320 million innocent consumers.

[aeolium]

Actually Gove did send his children to a "state" (nominally) school

BUT surely the point is more would you eat in a restaurant where all the staff go to the caff on the corner to have a coffee?

Allowing private businesses the tax loophole of charitable status while they run private schools really needs to stop.

You could also argue that the fact that Gove sends his children to a state school supports the point I was making - that whether MPs follow that example is less important than the educational policies they support and promote. Gove has arguably promoted some very divisive and regressive educational policies and certainly never had the slightest intention of doing anything about public schools.

I do agree about the charitable status issue - ending that loophole is I think Green party policy and really ought to be Labour policy.