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  • MrGongGong
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    On topic / Off topic ?

    Just a thought

    Some people seem to be immensely irritated by exchanges that go "off topic"
    Some people enjoy long rambling conversations that might or might not return to the start

    Is this reflected in the music that people listen to?
  • P. G. Tipps
    Full Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 2978

    #2
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    Just a thought

    Some people seem to be immensely irritated by exchanges that go "off topic"
    Some people enjoy long rambling conversations that might or might not return to the start

    Is this reflected in the music that people listen to?
    Funnily enough, I've recently developed a keen liking for the Mahler Symphonies after decades of avoiding them for their tendency (imv) to suddenly go hysterically 'off-topic'. I now find them really interesting and even exciting. How wrong can one ultimately be proved to be ... ?

    So your theory could well be right though I don't know if I've actually answered the question!

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      #3
      I'm not an Arsenal supporter, but the calls for Wenger to resign are ridiculous. The fact that they lost to United at the weekend, disguises the fact that they completely bossed the first half, had the lion's share of possession in the second, and limited United to one shot on target.

      Given the number of shots on target that they had themselves, they need to work on their finishing, not change their manager.

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        #4
        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        Just a thought

        Some people seem to be immensely irritated by exchanges that go "off topic"
        Some people enjoy long rambling conversations that might or might not return to the start

        Is this reflected in the music that people listen to?
        I cannot answer that with any certainty but I do think that there's off-topic and "off-topic" - i.e., on the one hand, posters who seek to drive the direction of a thread off-topic for the purposes of undermining and/or derailing it and, on the other, those who perceive certain relevant byways to a thread topic down which it might be interesting to go without actually intending to dilute the substance of the thread for the sake of so doing. I sought to illustrate this by mentioning on another thread, for example, that references to UKIP were not off-topic when the subject under discussion is the state of the UK political parties in the run-up to the next General Election bedcause UKIP is one of those parties.

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          #5
          Originally posted by ahinton View Post
          I cannot answer that with any certainty but I do think that there's off-topic and "off-topic" - i.e., on the one hand, posters who seek to drive the direction of a thread off-topic for the purposes of undermining and/or derailing it and, on the other, those who perceive certain relevant byways to a thread topic down which it might be interesting to go without actually intending to dilute the substance of the thread for the sake of so doing. I sought to illustrate this by mentioning on another thread, for example, that references to UKIP were not off-topic when the subject under discussion is the state of the UK political parties in the run-up to the next General Election bedcause UKIP is one of those parties.
          A huge number of UKIP references were "off-topic". Some, like yours, Jean's, ff's and mine were not.

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          • jean
            Late member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7100

            #6
            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
            ...those who perceive certain relevant byways to a thread topic down which it might be interesting to go without actually intending to dilute the substance of the thread for the sake of so doing...
            Brilliantly put. I do it all the time.

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #7
              Originally posted by jean View Post
              Brilliantly put. I do it all the time.
              A very good example of which, was your (the) posts on PFI, IMO.

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              • amateur51

                #8
                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                A huge number of UKIP references were "off-topic". Some, like yours, Jean's, ff's and mine were not.
                I offer posts #s 680, 682 and 684 in contradiction plus a whole swathe of other posts demonstrating an obsession with MrGG's underpants - well off-topic.

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                • Serial_Apologist
                  Full Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 37704

                  #9
                  I accuse this thread of being off-topic for being posted under "Politics & Current Affairs".

                  [Infuriatingly banned smiley]

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                    [Infuriatingly banned smiley]
                    I wonder if they can be reinstated.

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                    • ahinton
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 16123

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      A huge number of UKIP references were "off-topic". Some, like yours, Jean's, ff's and mine were not.
                      Well, to whatever extent that this may have been the case, it would seem fair to suggest that anyone's references to that organisation in a thread about the state of UK political parties in the run-up to the next General Election presumably have at least the makings of being on-topic - or would you disagree about that?

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                        Well, to whatever extent that this may have been the case, it would seem fair to suggest that anyone's references to that organisation in a thread about the state of UK political parties in the run-up to the next General Election presumably have at least the makings of being on-topic - or would you disagree about that?
                        I haven't the energy to agree or disagree at the present moment.

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                        • Richard Barrett

                          #13
                          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                          I've recently developed a keen liking for the Mahler Symphonies after decades of avoiding them for their tendency (imv) to suddenly go hysterically 'off-topic'.
                          I can't really think of an example of a Mahler symphony "going off-topic", it's just that the "topics" are somewhat more complex than arguing about whether UKIP should have "the" before it...

                          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                          How wrong can one ultimately be proved to be ... ?
                          You said it.

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                          • P. G. Tipps
                            Full Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2978

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                            I can't really think of an example of a Mahler symphony "going off-topic", it's just that the "topics" are somewhat more complex than arguing about whether UKIP should have "the" before it...

                            You said it.
                            I've always been a very simpleminded soul.

                            There are so many confident, complicated intellectuals around here I often feel like a duck out of water, though I am encouraged by FF's old colleague who believed that one can be silly and right at the same time ...

                            Therefore hope springs eternal in the simpleminded soul of one, P. G. Tipps.

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25210

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              I wonder if they can be reinstated.
                              I hope they emotican.

                              anyway, back off topic, no doubt there is one of those tricky philosophical paradoxes about whether one can in fact go off topic, in a thread about being off topic.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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