'Trojan Horse plot'

[Flosshilde]

In the now burried Remembrance Day thread BO referred to a 'Trojan Horse affair' -

And you are very vocal about all things to do with education, but I do not recall a single word from you on the so called Trojan Horse affair.

I pointed out that there was no plot, as investigations made clear -

18 July
Birmingham City Council releases key findings from its inquiry into 25 schools.
Written by Ian Kershaw, it finds no evidence of violent extremism, radicalisation or an anti-British agenda being promoted. However, it does warn of governance problems in some schools.
22 July
Peter Clarke's report for the DfE is officially released.
Mr Clarke said his inquiry found no evidence of extremism but "there are a number of people in a position of influence who either espouse, or sympathise with or fail to challenge extremist views".
from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-28370552

The famous anonymous letter which set it all in motion is probably in the same category as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the Zinoviev Letter.

Meanwhile extremist Christian schools are allowed to carry on without investigation.

[MrGongGong]

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[Beef Oven!]

In the now burried Remembrance Day thread BO referred to a 'Trojan Horse affair' -



I pointed out that there was no plot, as investigations made clear -

18 July
Birmingham City Council releases key findings from its inquiry into 25 schools.
Written by Ian Kershaw, it finds no evidence of violent extremism, radicalisation or an anti-British agenda being promoted. However, it does warn of governance problems in some schools.
22 July
Peter Clarke's report for the DfE is officially released.
Mr Clarke said his inquiry found no evidence of extremism but "there are a number of people in a position of influence who either espouse, or sympathise with or fail to challenge extremist views".
from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-28370552

The famous anonymous letter which set it all in motion is probably in the same category as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the Zinoviev Letter.

Meanwhile extremist Christian schools are allowed to carry on without investigation.

Before you start falling over yourself to have a pop at Christian schools, read what I said. I accused MrGG and Alpinesinfonie of banging on about Gove, but being silent about "the so-called Trojan Horse plot".

Don't congratulate yourself, you've pointed nothing out. We are all aware of the allegations and the subsequent report.

Calm down a bit, you're a bit too excitable about such matters.

[Beef Oven!]

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The report did not find penguins.

It found

"......disturbing" evidence that people with a "shared ideology" were trying to gain control of governing bodies in Birmingham...."

"...... sustained and co-ordinated agenda to impose upon children in a number of Birmingham schools the segregationist attitudes and practices of a hardline and politicised strain of Sunni Islam".

"......co-ordinated, deliberate and sustained action to introduce an intolerant and aggressive Islamist ethos into some schools in the city".

The agenda would have confined....... "schoolchildren within an intolerant, inward-looking monoculture that would severely inhibit their participation in the life of modern Britain".

All of this in a non-faith state school.

My point was that whilst people go bananas about Gove, they remain silent on these matters.

You go crazy about Gove, and on this, you give us cartoons about penguins.

[MrGongGong]

There was no plot
There are religious nutters everywhere who really shouldn't be involved in education at all.

A couple of weeks ago I went to a "Christian" funeral
very old school
and what struck me was what a weird cult this religion is

"schoolchildren within an intolerant, inward-looking monoculture that would severely inhibit their participation in the life of modern Britain".

Reminds me of some Catholic schools i've been to

Pretending that daft people only exist in one place is rather unwise

Goves replacement seems to be saying some ridiculous nonsense, so no change there.

[Beef Oven!]

There was no plot
There are religious nutters everywhere who really shouldn't be involved in education at all.

A couple of weeks ago I went to a "Christian" funeral
very old school
and what struck me was what a weird cult this religion is



Reminds me of some Catholic schools i've been to

Pretending that daft people only exist in one place is rather unwise

Goves replacement seems to be saying some ridiculous nonsense, so no change there.

Not interested in your views on religion. What interests me is how you go feral on Christianity, Gove and all the other easy targets, then completely chicken-out on something very significant like this.

[MrGongGong]

Not interested in your views on religion. What interests me is how you go feral on Christianity, Gove and all the other easy targets, then completely chicken-out on something very significant like this.

It's not very significant
Your sub plot is along the lines of the idea that there is some Islamic conspiracy that is trying to take over schools and society
there isn't
there are good and bad people everywhere

[Beef Oven!]

It's not very significant
Your sub plot is along the lines of the idea that there is some Islamic conspiracy that is trying to take over schools and society
there isn't
there are good and bad people everywhere

No sub-plot. No Islamic conspiracy. Just plain wrong, but you're scared of it. What is it that shits you up about this?

[MrGongGong]

No sub-plot. No Islamic conspiracy. Just plain wrong, but you're scared of it. What is it that shits you up about this?

I'm not scared of it at all
I've worked in one of the schools in the report
and it wasn't in the least bit scary at all
Your kipper mates are the ones who are scared but of something that is in their heads

[Flosshilde]

My point was that whilst people go bananas about Gove, they remain silent on these matters.

And my point was that you were accusing people of not discussing something about which there was nothing to discuss. The 'affair' was conjured up by some with a suspect agenda, & found not to be an affair at all. So, no discussion. It's you that is now trying to make something out of nothing.

[Beef Oven!]

And my point was that you were accusing people of not discussing something about which there was nothing to discuss. The 'affair' was conjured up by some with a suspect agenda, & found not to be an affair at all. So, no discussion. It's you that is now trying to make something out of nothing.

Something out of nothing? Nonsense. There are significant issues hi-lighted by that report. Stop being obdurate.

[Beef Oven!]

I'm not scared of it at all
I've worked in one of the schools in the report
and it wasn't in the least bit.................

Blah, blah, blah...if the kids, are united, they will never be...blah, blah, blah.

[MrGongGong]

Blah, blah, blah...if the kids, are united, they will never be...blah, blah, blah.

Go to bed
you've obviously been on the sauce

[Beef Oven!]

Go to bed
you've obviously been on the sauce

On the contrary, I've not had a drink for two weeks, so I am about to pour myself a double Highland Park, whilst listening to Coltrane's Acension. And then I'll go to bed, if it's all the same to you.

[MrGongGong]

On the contrary, I've not had a drink for two weeks, so I am about to pour myself a double Highland Park, whilst listening to Coltrane's Acension. And then I'll go to bed, if it's all the same to you.

How can you sleep with such things to scare you ?
Here come the Bulgarians

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