Public sector greed and lack of concern for the public its supposed to serve

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  • Beef Oven!
    Ex-member
    • Sep 2013
    • 18147

    #16
    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    Whilst I share your views about litter, thee's absolutely no way that consistency of approach to it as an offence could possibly be applied............
    Then it should be dropped (NPI).

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    • Flosshilde
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 7988

      #17
      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      People walk out of a shop, rip the cellophane, wrapping, whatever off their cigarettes, sweets, ice cream and just chuck it on the floor. Some parts of London are a disgrace.

      No point in fining a person here, a person there. Needs to be applied consistently, or not applied at all. Simple principle of fairness.
      Anecdotal? I didn't see any mention of this in the news story you linked to.

      The whole point of fines is as a deterrent, so it doesn't really matter if not everyone who drops litter is fined; it's enough that people think they might be.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        #18
        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        The whole point of fines is as a deterrent, so it doesn't really matter if not everyone who drops litter is fined; it's enough that people think they might be.
        Trouble is, few people realise they could get fined, and few people do. So it's not a deterrent.

        In north London 2 years ago I saw woman challenged and fined £80 for putting her cigarette out on the pavement in a busy shopping area. She had absolutely no idea that she was doing wrong. The guy stalked her. he could easily have told her not to do it as he clearly knew what she was about to do.

        She was really upset and cried. I really felt for her.

        How does that help in any way? £80 is a lot of money and people just don't know about it.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #19
          "Pringles" are more addictive than crack cocaine
          he was obviously off his face on MSG

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