State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms.

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  • amateur51

    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    Any chance of further comments from anyone on the State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms? Or has that one outlived its usefulness or gone its distance or both?...
    My post #1465 refers.

    With the emphasis on state.

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    • teamsaint
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 25211

      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
      I think (getting back on task) that when asked about policy that most people would actually be supporters of the Green Party, but alas people prefer the theatre.

      http://eastern.greenparty.org.uk/ass...-web-250px.png

      are the other parties offering better productions in marginal constituencies, or better benefits for actors "between jobs" ?

      latest Polls:
      Non-partisan coverage and discussion of news in the polling industry

      small advances for the Greens, so not good for actors, otherwise same as usual really, I think.

      Greens look set to hold their one seat from a poll conducted there.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
        I think (getting back on task) that when asked about policy that most people would actually be supporters of the Green Party, but alas people prefer the theatre.

        http://eastern.greenparty.org.uk/ass...-web-250px.png
        Indeed. I would agree with all of those statements, but I would need to know how they plan to do it.

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16123

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          Indeed. I would agree with all of those statements, but I would need to know how they plan to do it.
          Broadly speaking, I would, too, but there's one that I would most cetainly not agree with and that's its apparent advertised date of the next General Election as 22 May 2015, 15 days later than that shown in http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/e...imetable-2015/ ; they're not going to get many votes that count if all their supporters turn up more than a fortnight after the event has been and gone...

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          • ahinton
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 16123

            Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
            are the other parties offering better productions in marginal constituencies, or better benefits for actors "between jobs" ?

            latest Polls:
            Non-partisan coverage and discussion of news in the polling industry

            small advances for the Greens, so not good for actors, otherwise same as usual really, I think.

            Greens look set to hold their one seat from a poll conducted there.
            No mention of the SNP factor, here, though...

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              Indeed. I would agree with all of those statements, but I would need to know how they plan to do it.
              Come on old chum, fantasising has never been a problem for you in the past.

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              • ahinton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16123

                Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                My post #1465 refers.

                With the emphasis on state.
                Indeed - although I rather thought that, in the case of that particular party and its leader, it was more a case of when the 2015 General Election booms.

                Nige and Farage, Nige and Farage
                Go together like a hearse and triage...


                ...only in the reverse order, of course (and with due apologies to Messrs Cahn and van Heusen)...

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                • ahinton
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 16123

                  Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                  Come on old chum, fantasising has never been a problem for you in the past.
                  But at least he agrees broadly with these aims - which is hardly a bad thing, surely? If a substantial proportion of UK voters would admit (if asked) to doing the same and would accordingly be prepared to put their crosses where their minds are, we might even end up with a majority Green government!...

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                  • P. G. Tipps
                    Full Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 2978

                    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                    But at least he agrees broadly with these aims - which is hardly a bad thing, surely? If a substantial proportion of UK voters would admit (if asked) to doing the same and would accordingly be prepared to put their crosses where their minds are, we might even end up with a majority Green government!...
                    In my very humble opinion the Greens have simply occupied the territory once occupied by the Lib Dems.

                    They (the Greens) know they will never form a Government so promise just about everything to anybody and simply cannot be taken seriously by voters with an ounce of realism. They are just another left-of-centre party and we have two already. Poor old Scotland and Wales have three!

                    At least UKIP stand for something radically different ... however silly its EU stance ... and that, of course, is the secret of its success ...

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post

                      At least UKIP stand for something radically different ... however silly its EU stance ... and that, of course, is the secret of its success ...
                      They don't
                      There's nothing "radically different" about them at all

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        In my very humble opinion the Greens have simply occupied the territory once occupied by the Lib Dems.
                        Your opinion might be "very humble" but it's also wrong; ask any Green or LibDem supporter (assuming that you can find any of the latter to ask).

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        They (the Greens) know they will never form a Government
                        So does UKIP; in fact, its leader has publicly admitted as much!

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        They are just another left-of-centre party
                        Are you sure where that "centre" is?

                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        At least UKIP stand for something radically different ... however silly its EU stance ... and that, of course, is the secret of its success ...
                        I think that it would be wise to await the results of the next General Election before assuming whether UKIP "stands" at all and whether it has actually achieved anything that could reasonably be described as "success"...

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          They don't
                          There's nothing "radically different" about them at all
                          Oh, I wouldn't say that; surely they're far noisier than all the others!

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                          • jean
                            Late member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7100

                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            According to experts, the three main parties are almost neck and neck - the poll puts the position as this:

                            Conservatives 31%
                            Labour 31%
                            UKIP 26%
                            LibDems 8%
                            There you go, missing out the Greens again.

                            According to other experts:

                            LABOUR 35%
                            CONSERVATIVES 30%
                            UKIP 16%
                            GREENS 8%
                            LIBDEMS 6%
                            SNP/PC 4%

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                            • ahinton
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 16123

                              Originally posted by jean View Post
                              There you go, missing out the Greens again.

                              According to other experts:

                              LABOUR 35%
                              CONSERVATIVES 30%
                              UKIP 16%
                              GREENS 8%
                              LIBDEMS 6%
                              SNP/PC 4%
                              ...which adds up to 99%, so who do they think might represent the other 1%? At least their statistics for voters ages 18-24 add up to 100%:

                              YOUGOV Aged 18-24 voting intentions LABOUR 32% GREENS 26% CONSERVATIVES 21% UKIP 15% SNP/PC 3% LD 3%

                              That said, neither seem to give much credit to SNP by linking it together with PC and allotting it the presumed support of fewer than one voter in 30, which seems rather at odds with other recent reports...
                              Last edited by ahinton; 20-12-14, 19:21.

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                              • P. G. Tipps
                                Full Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2978

                                'They don't
                                There's nothing "radically different" about them at all.'


                                'Your opinion might be "very humble" but it's also wrong;'


                                Well, that's the result of getting back on topic, I see ... might as well watch the footy. :laugh:

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