Originally posted by ahinton
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State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostYes, maybe a lack of sufficient funds is the main or sole reason why they're only expecting to field a dozen candidates. I have no idea how many the Greens anticipate fielding but, whatever the figure may be, at least they don't provide the electorate with loud-mouthed posturing disproporationate to their expected number of candidates and they do at least make more effort than UKIP to reveal their policies on non-environmental matters rather than conveying the one-trick-pony impression which seems to be UKIP's principal trademark.
Nige will be green with envy.I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.
I am not a number, I am a free man.
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostWe know what Gordon Brown, Thornberry et al think of white working class English voters.
I'm sure they are well aware that a large proportion of such voters are 'hardworking' Labour supporters; I'm also sure that they would have no wish to insult them by implying that they were all right-wing racists &c. That does not preclude the certainty that some of them are - just as there are rich people with social consciences.
Nor do I think Thornberry's tweet was anything more than embarrassing stupidity.I'm not familiar with Rochester, or Strood, but the so-called 'terrace house' pictured looks rather more opulent than my 'terrace house' so I wouldn't have thought it typically 'working-class'. Are they so much better off in Kent?It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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Originally posted by french frank View Post
Nor do I think Thornberry's tweet was anything more than embarrassing stupidity.
And while people in here are diverting us to Enoch Powell, The Daily Mail etc, Thornberry is at least sticking her hand up and saying she was wrong and apologising.
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Originally posted by ahinton View PostDo you not think it a good idea that someone who has admitted his probable intention to vote UKIP net time around should at least know what a racist is?
And I admitted nothing. I merely said that, ceteris paribus, I will probably vote UKIP in the general election ('scuse the Greek term back there).
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Originally posted by Beef Oven! View PostIt's a bit more than that, isn't it? She took a photograph of someone's home and published it. Quite a bit of forethought and deliberation. She obviously wanted to communicate this racial stereotype.
She has apologised but it is by no means clear that she was apologising for conveying that Rochester had such flags flying. I would have taken that to mean that there were signs of a strong UKIP presence. I'm not sure where the idea came from that it was a statement on the 'white working class' - that seems to be the gloss put on it (along with the 'sneering' and 'champagne socialism') by the right wing press.
I think she would have been perfectly right to apologise to her Labour colleagues and to Ed Miliband.It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.
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