State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms.

[Serial_Apologist]

Indeed. Being a multi-millionaire career 'politician' it is of no consequence to him whatsoever, the lot of the 'unwashed'

Talking of personal care - GO really should do something about the hair, and while he's at it, the funeral parlour pallor. Or is the embalmed look intentional?

alabastard, you mean....

[teamsaint]

alabastard, you mean....

:)

you mean he's lost his marbles?

[amateur51]

Indeed. Being a multi-millionaire career 'politician' it is of no consequence to him whatsoever, the lot of the 'unwashed'

Is it Gideon of whom you speak, visnic, or Niggle?

The description fits both.

[Serial_Apologist]

:)

you mean he's lost his marbles?

I apologise - one should not speak ill of the illegitimate...

[Beef Oven!]

HeHe! Now Labour are finally aligning their policies with the British voter!!!

They know it makes sense, so they are going populist!

The 2015 general election's going to be fun!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30102310

[teamsaint]

HeHe! Now Labour are finally aligning their policies with the British voter!!!

They know it makes sense, so they are going populist!

The 2015 general election's going to be fun!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30102310

its going to be about which set of the bankers chums get the most votes. Rachel Reeves is a career banker.

Pity about the picture the BBC chose to use on that report too. They might equally have shown a picture of east europeans picking the Xmas sprouts from the fields.

[Beef Oven!]

Originally Posted by teamsaint

Rachel Reeves is a career banker.

No, Rachel Reeves is a career politician, like Cameron, Clegg, Miliband et al.

She's Labour's Shadow work and pensions secretary!

Pity about the picture the BBC chose to use on that report too. They might equally have shown a picture of east europeans picking the Xmas sprouts from the fields.

The picture is perfectly ok, but we would have preferred a politically correct photograph, so we can all keep pretending about the world.

[Richard Barrett]

its going to be about which set of the bankers chums get the most votes.

There is a slight difference - Labour politicians are the bankers' chums, while Tory politicians are the bankers.

The fact that, according to that BBC article, immigration is now "the issue of greatest concern to voters" is absolutely shameful given how many immensely more important issues are facing the country's population. Politics in the UK has become a matter of spreading hatred and paranoia. I am so very glad to be able to say I don't live there.

[Beef Oven!]

There is a slight difference - Labour politicians are the bankers' chums, while Tory politicians are the bankers.

The fact that, according to that BBC article, immigration is now "the issue of greatest concern to voters" is absolutely shameful given how many immensely more important issues are facing the country's population. Politics in the UK has become a matter of spreading hatred and paranoia. I am so very glad to be able to say I don't live there.

You need to let the people decide what they think the most important issues are.

And immigration and race are no longer taboo issues, and should never have been.

As for "Politics in the UK has become a matter of spreading hatred and paranoia", that's typical of the sort of hysteria that millions of us in Britain who are totally capable of living together, marrying together and getting on with life together, have to put up with from the cultural Marxists of our time, if we dare to think for ourselves about 'taboo subjects'.

[Richard Barrett]

Kippers and their bandwaggon-jumpers like to say that immigration and race are "taboo subjects". This is wrong. What they mean is that open xenophobia and racism have been thought of as unacceptable but now that is changing. It's the xenophobes and racists who are whipping up hysteria, not the "cultural Marxists" whoever they are.

You need to let the people decide what they think the most important issues are.

Of course. But it is clear from a number of recent surveys that "the people" are woefully misinformed about many current issues, which is hardly a good starting position.

On the other hand, on the small chance that you are right and British people really despise foreigners and the most vulnerable members of society so much as to support something like UKIP with open eyes, then I'm even more glad to be away from that place.

[P. G. Tipps]

On the other hand, on the small chance that you are right and British people really despise foreigners and the most vulnerable members of society so much as to support something like UKIP with open eyes, then I'm even more glad to be away from that place.

.

I wouldn't be too sure about 'that place' ... and remember ... 'always keep a hold of nurse, for fear of finding something worse'.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/25/germanys-npd-far-right-surge-european-elections_n_5390011.html

[amateur51]

I am quite convinced that once UKIP are forced to commit to some policies in their manifesto and they come under close scrutiny, the air will be full of tyres.

It is however quite possible that a broad rump of my fellow citizens will vote for them.

But then they did vote for Thatcher.

Several times.

I do fret about the Universal Franchise sometimes (joke)

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/18/ukip-doctor-blasts-tory-mp-michael-fabricants-equal-blood-campaign/

[Beef Oven!]

Kippers and their bandwaggon-jumpers like to say that immigration and race are "taboo subjects". This is wrong. What they mean is that open xenophobia and racism have been thought of as unacceptable but now that is changing. It's the xenophobes and racists who are whipping up hysteria, not the "cultural Marxists" whoever they are.

When I say race has been a taboo subject and it shouldn't be, that's exactly what I mean - not the claptrap that you've just smattered. I am happy to talk about immigration/race, in the way I do, and that does not mean that I, or other people who are happy to talk about immigration/race in that way, are racists or xenophobes.

Of course. But it is clear from a number of recent surveys that "the people" are woefully misinformed about many current issues, which is hardly a good starting position.

I agree that misinformation on this matter is unhelpful. But that's just part of the distraction anyway. Sadly, Marxists have been woefully distracted. The only reason why successive governments have gone in for such high levels of immigration into this country is to create a vast, cheap industrial reserve army/labour force. All funded by the tax-payer, not big business. When these workers are not needed, they are easily disposed of into benefits, poor housing, poor health-outcomes etc, when they are no longer required. And Marxists have bought the whole racism thing. I bet the rich fat cats are laughing themselves all the way to the bank, how they caught their main opponents in that trap!

On the other hand, on the small chance that you are right and British people really despise foreigners and the most vulnerable members of society so much as to support something like UKIP with open eyes, then I'm even more glad to be away from that place.

And, I have not said that I or anyone else despise foreigners and 'most vulnerable' members of society. Don't resort to attributing vile ideas to me, just because you can't argue head-on.

[visualnickmos]

I do fret about the Universal Franchise sometimes (joke)

So do I.

[Serial_Apologist]

When I say race has been a taboo subject and it shouldn't be, that's exactly what I mean - not the claptrap that you've just smattered. I am happy to talk about immigration/race, in the way I do, and that does not mean that I, or other people who are happy to talk about immigration/race in that way, are racists or xenophobes.



I agree that misinformation on this matter is unhelpful. But that's just part of the distraction anyway. Sadly, Marxists have been woefully distracted. The only reason why successive governments have gone in for such high levels of immigration into this country is to create a vast, cheap industrial reserve army/labour force. All funded by the tax-payer, not big business. When these workers are not needed, they are easily disposed of into benefits, poor housing, poor health-outcomes etc, when they are no longer required. And Marxists have bought the whole racism thing. I bet the rich fat cats are laughing themselves all the way to the bank, how they caught their main opponents in that trap!



And, I have not said that I or anyone else despise foreigners and 'most vulnerable' members of society. Don't resort to attributing vile ideas to me, just because you can't argue head-on.

Nobody has accused you of being a racist or xenophobe on this forum, as far as I am aware. What if anything you have been accused of is supporting UKIP without thinking through the practical or ethical implications, which have repeatedly been pointed out to you. For an intelligent person the only possible explanation is that you are either in bad faith, or this whole line you've been pedalling all along is one big wind-up, and is not by the way a very funny one.