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  • mercia
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 8920

    having read the following article, it seems to me that the greatest benefit to the UK economy would be if the 'indigenous' population left en masse (but where to go .... ?)

    New report calculates that immigrants to the UK from Eastern Europe and other newer members of the EU contribute far more in tax to the UK than they take out in benefits, tax credits and use of public services.

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    • ahinton
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 16123

      Originally posted by mercia View Post
      having read the following article, it seems to me that the greatest benefit to the UK economy would be if the 'indigenous' population left en masse (but where to go .... ?)

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29906592
      It's a useful article (to which I've just drawn attention in the "NHS..." thread) but I'd not quite draw such a conclusion from it; what would surely be better is to encourage both that 'indigenous' population and the immigrant one not to use NHS or other state services and not to claim any state benefits at any time; yeah, right!...

      "Where to go"? Well, I'd suggest not to any other EU member state, for starters, because while UK continues to promote its current apparent stance on immigration it can only incense many in those other member states on the grounds that UK's overtly trying to paint itself into a "one rule for us, another for the rest of EU" corner. But where, then? Well, there's east and west Africa, India, er - oh, wait a moment, haven't we been throught that sort of thinge some centuries ago?...

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by mercia View Post
        having read the following article, it seems to me that the greatest benefit to the UK economy would be if the 'indigenous' population left en masse (but where to go .... ?)
        I would prefer to swap the UK people who won't or can't work, pay their rent etc, for our European and world cousins who would like to come here and work for a living!!!

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        • ahinton
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 16123

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          I would prefer to swap the UK people who won't or can't work, pay their rent etc, for our European and world cousins who would like to come here and work for a living!!!
          So you'd deport from UK some or all of the people of "working age" who currently live there if they cannot work (for any reason?) as distinct from refuse to work? Where to? - and who'd pay for all the arrangements including the lawyers and all the court cases to which such a move would inevitably give rise?

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            I would prefer to swap the UK people who won't or can't work, pay their rent etc, for our European and world cousins who would like to come here and work for a living!!!
            I think your kipper days are numbered matey
            they will kick you out for saying that

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
              So you'd deport from UK some or all of the people of "working age" who currently live there if they cannot work (for any reason?) as distinct from refuse to work? Where to? - and who'd pay for all the arrangements including the lawyers and all the court cases to which such a move would inevitably give rise?
              Yes, it'd pay for itself in the long-run.

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              • Beef Oven!
                Ex-member
                • Sep 2013
                • 18147

                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                I think your kipper days are numbered matey
                they will kick you out for saying that
                It's a broad church. I'd be allowed to stay, I think.

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  It's a broad church. I'd be allowed to stay, I think.
                  yeah right
                  more like this methinks




                  Cargo cults often develop during a combination of crises. Under conditions of social stress, such a movement may form under the leadership of a charismatic figure. This leader may have a "vision" (or "myth-dream") of the future, often linked to an ancestral efficacy thought to be recoverable by a return to traditional morality.[1][3] This leader may characterize the present state (often imposed by colonial capitalist regimes) as a dismantling of the old social order, meaning that social hierarchy and ego boundaries have been broken down.[4]

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                    yeah right
                    more like this methinks

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
                    Where would you be without wiki, MrGG?

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                    • MrGongGong
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 18357

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      Where would you be without wiki, MrGG?
                      Buy me a faster computer then I won't have to mess about on the internet while my audio renders

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                        Buy me a faster computer then I won't have to mess about on the internet while my audio renders
                        Send me your full name, date of birth, address, mother's maiden name and the name of your first pet, and I'll whizz one over to you.

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Yes, it'd pay for itself in the long-run.
                          What makes you think so? Do you have any idea of the total cost to UK of the hundreds of thousands of lawsuits including class actions that would inevitably be brought in the wake of such an attempted move? - not to mention the fines and sanctions that would almost certainly be imposed by EU and by the government of ecery country whose citizens were to be threatened with such deportation? No, I don't, either, at least in terms of an approximate figure, but I do know that it would be immense and the process would, ironically, also put such a strain on the UK judicial system that the UK government would find itself having to encourage tens of thousands of qualified lawyers and support and ancillary staff to come to UK to do this vast amount of work (at the taxpayers' expense) because the country certainly does not already have anywhere near enough!

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                          • Serial_Apologist
                            Full Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 37710

                            Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                            What makes you think so? Do you have any idea of the total cost to UK of the hundreds of thousands of lawsuits including class actions that would inevitably be brought in the wake of such an attempted move? - not to mention the fines and sanctions that would almost certainly be imposed by EU and by the government of ecery country whose citizens were to be threatened with such deportation? No, I don't, either, at least in terms of an approximate figure, but I do know that it would be immense and the process would, ironically, also put such a strain on the UK judicial system that the UK government would find itself having to encourage tens of thousands of qualified lawyers and support and ancillary staff to come to UK to do this vast amount of work (at the taxpayers' expense) because the country certainly does not already have anywhere near enough!
                            Oh i'm sure that UKIP will have come up with an answer to that one by next May as they spring clean their membership lists, if not already... <whistle>

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Yes, it'd pay for itself in the long-run.
                              Why not, instead of deporting them, get them to live in camps and work for food?

                              Shades of Todt, but hey, who's to complain ? and once we have got rid of the ridiculous idea of "human rights" we can move forward with confidence in the knowledge that we ARE the chosen ones.....

                              Would we have to take back all the old British folks from Spain ?

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Why not, instead of deporting them, get them to live in camps and work for food?
                                No, they need money to buy alcohol and western consumer goods


                                Would we have to take back all the old British folks from Spain ?
                                No, they would have their passports revoked.

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