State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms.

[MrGongGong]

the dire economic shambles left by Labour.

agh yes trot that one out like the rest of the sheep


as pointed out

dire economic shambles left by the banks.

[teamsaint]

i'm not a big fan of recent " labour " governments, but like most people out here in the real world, I value the truth.

And here it is.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/oct/18/deficit-debt-government-borrowing-data#zoomed-picture

All broadly similar under the red and blue tories till the banking crisis. And then.......

[P. G. Tipps]

I have corrected that for you, T bag ...

Thank you, Comrade Kick-Balls ....

[P. G. Tipps]

Spot on TS, spot on. Need I say more.....

'Spot on' ... ? ... :-)

[teamsaint]

'Spot on' ... ? ... :-)

Government borrowing under was broadly similar under labour and tory governernments, over the long term, until the bank crisis kicked in.

This is a fact.

[amateur51]

Well, Liam Byrne's scribbled note to his successor saying 'sorry, there's no money left' might provide some sort of clue ... ?

Even if it was meant to be a joke it was in very poor taste considering the dire economic shambles left by Labour.

You do understand the core reason behind 'the shambles' as you put it, don't you?

Does the term 'banking crisis' ring any bells?

Lots of cross-posting with teams & MrGG I see - apologies.

[ahinton]

Well, what about the new Whigs, then? There's a paragraph about them in http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...s-9818358.html and my own (Conservative) MP was interviewed about this on this morning's Today on R4 (well, he is a biographer of Edmund Burke). So, what shall it be, then? - Tories and Labour each struggling to maintain their positions as the "main" parties, followed by SNP (for whom less than 1 in 10 of the UK electorate can vote anyway) and then UKIP, the LibDems and the new Whigs in any order you care to choose, + the Greens and all the others; majority, anyone? - not a chance!

[P. G. Tipps]

You do understand the core reason behind 'the shambles' as you put it, don't you?

Does the term 'banking crisis' ring any bells?.

Now, don't be silly!

We all know that you and your like-minded chums would have been screeching from the forum rooftops about economic incompetence if the Tories had been in power and had left the country in such a parlous state.

That would have been a 'banker bet' if ever there was one ... :-)

[Flosshilde]

Government borrowing under was broadly similar under labour and tory governernments, over the long term, until the bank crisis kicked in.

This is a fact.

But is it one dear old Scotty-Tipps recognises? He has an interesting relationship with facts - it's only a fact if he says it is. Must be something to do with his early education - you know, 'Give me a child until he is seven ...'

[amateur51]

Now, don't be silly!

We all know that you and your like-minded chums would have been screeching from the forum rooftops about economic incompetence if the Tories had been in power and had left the country in such a parlous state.

That would have been a 'banker bet' if ever there was one ... :-)

Actually I know my mind better than you (or 'we') do scotty so leave off the paranormal shenanigans please. It makes you seem cheap and does you no credit.

[visualnickmos]

But is it one dear old Scotty-Tipps recognises? He has an interesting relationship with facts - it's only a fact if he says it is. Must be something to do with his early education - you know, 'Give me a child until he is seven ...'

Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on;

[visualnickmos]

Actually I know my mind better than you (or 'we') do scotty so leave off the paranormal shenanigans please. It makes you seem cheap and does you no credit.

Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on;

[P. G. Tipps]

Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on;

Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on; Spot on;

Well at least you can't be faulted on the grounds of inconsistency, visualnickmos ... :ok:

[Beef Oven!]

Cameron (and the coalition, tbf) may have done a good job in managing the economy in difficult times BUT, he's definitely in trouble on his UKIP strategy

Maybe the tories should ditch him, now.

[ahinton]

Cameron (and the coalition, tbf) may have done a good job in managing the economy in difficult times BUT, he's definitely in trouble on his UKIP strategy

Maybe the tories should ditch him, now.

Do you have a recommendable replacement in mind?