State of the parties as 2015 General Election looms.

[P. G. Tipps]

I'm certainly all ears now ... please go ahead!

So much for a pair of big ears ... :-)

[P. G. Tipps]

Stereotypes based on supposed ethnic characteristics are unpleasant, potentially hurtful and to be avoided, whoever the targeted groups are.

Now you know what I think.

Plenty of people agree with me. Just listen a bit more.

That's all very well but you haven't explained the utter hypocrisy in the blatant selectivity of which ethnic groups are supposed to be unpleasantly 'hurt'.

I often think the UK Liberal-Left/ Marxists are the last lingering vestiges of the old British Empire. They somehow seem to think that other races are somehow incapable of looking after themselves and need some paternal protection.

Just how deeply insulting to other races can you possibly get ... ?

[Beef Oven!]

The first rule of pedantry is to be consistent.

Your original objection was to foul language:


Now, you've changed the grounds of your objection rather:

Here's my post #1196. It's clear that my first and foremost point is about bringing the children in, and the foul language second.

"Although the forum is pretty left-wing, and IDS is a right wing Tory, I don't think we should bring his children into the discussion and/or call them b***ards."

Surely accuracy is more important to pedantry than consistency? Maybe you're not sufficiently competent be my mentor on this.

[teamsaint]

Well, er, yes, but that was taken completely out of context when you look at the full transcript. He also said he had many Jewish friends which wasn't quite as well reported!!

Scots, particuarly Aberdonians, are regularly labelled in exactly the same way yet not a word of censure from any in the PC Brigade.

Of course we Scots are well used to such teasing and, in fact, we rather enjoy it, it all adds to life's silliness which is just as important as all the serious stuff in order to remain relatively sane.

I suspect the Chinese & Jews, two of the most talented races on earth, couldn't give a toss what others think or say about them either!

Could you post the league table of race talent please? sounds interesting.

[jean]

That's all very well but you haven't explained the utter hypocrisy in the blatant selectivity of which ethnic groups are supposed to be unpleasantly 'hurt'.

What are you talking about? I object to stereotyping any group at all. That includes the Germans, the French, the Italians, the Welsh, the Scots, the Irish, even the English.

What's blatantly selective about that?

[jean]

Here's my post #1196. It's clear that my first and foremost point is about bringing the children in, and the foul language second.

"Although the forum is pretty left-wing, and IDS is a right wing Tory, I don't think we should bring his children into the discussion and/or call them b***ards."

Looks like one and the same point to me - not so much as a comma between the clauses.

[teamsaint]

latest polls.

nothing changing.

http://comres.co.uk/poll/1293/sunday-mirror-independent-on-sunday-poll.htm

still think labour have every chance of a majority.

[Eine Alpensinfonie]

Here's my post #1196. It's clear that my first and foremost point is about bringing the children in, and the foul language second.

"Although the forum is pretty left-wing, and IDS is a right wing Tory, I don't think we should bring his children into the discussion and/or call them b***ards."

Surely accuracy is more important to pedantry than consistency? Maybe you're not sufficiently competent be my mentor on this.

As far as I can see.the poster did not seek to demean the children of IDS, which would indeed have been wrong. Nor did the (admittedly regrettable) terminology insult the children themselves, as the point was to shame IDS himself for his double standards on pro-creation.

[P. G. Tipps]

What are you talking about? I object to stereotyping any group at all. That includes the Germans, the French, the Italians, the Welsh, the Scots, the Irish, even the English.

What's blatantly selective about that?

Well, I think others can easily make up their own minds about that based on simple experience!

In any case, what makes you think anybody is particularly obsessed about 'stereotyping' of races? In many cases it's as much a compliment as a criticism! Who really cares about Liberal-Marxist obsessions, ordinary folk have far more important things to worry about in their lives!

Where's your sense of proportion when there are so many seriously dreadful things happening in the world like the deliberate murder of over a hundred poor innocent school kids by the Taliban?

Can you imagine what this forum would be like if an American bomb had accidentally hit the same school?

Doesn't take much ...

[Flosshilde]

IDS himself for his double standards on pro-creation.

Don't tell me he doesn't believe in evolution either!

[Richard Barrett]

"Poor bastards" was intended to express sympathy for those children on account of their having such a poltroon for a father. Is that clear now?

[jean]

I did attempt to get that point across several hours ago.

There's a huge difference between 'bastard' and 'poor bastard.' As soon as you add 'poor,' you're commiserating with whoever it is, rather than questioning their parentage. You could equally well say something like 'poor little sods.'

[amateur51]

Well, I think others can easily make up their own minds about that based on simple experience!

In any case, what makes you think anybody is particularly obsessed about 'stereotyping' of races? In many cases it's as much a compliment as a criticism! Who really cares about Liberal-Marxist obsessions, ordinary folk have far more important things to worry about in their lives!

Where's your sense of proportion when there are so many seriously dreadful things happening in the world like the deliberate murder of over a hundred poor innocent school kids by the Taliban?

Can you imagine what this forum would be like if an American bomb had accidentally hit the same school?

Doesn't take much ...

Are Taliban Britain's 'allies'?

Are Taliban seeking to bring democracy to Muslim nations?

According to former BBC correspondent Owen Bennett-Jones on BBC PM programme this evening, we need to be clear that the murderers of the schoolchildren today are Pakistan Taliban, as distinct from Afghan Taliban. Taliban.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehrik-i-Taliban_Pakistan

So it's a rather more complicated situation than your flippant scenario, scottyTipps.

[amateur51]

"Poor bastards" was intended to express sympathy for those children on account of their having such a poltroon for a father. Is that clear now?

Poltroon?

Love it!

[jean]

In any case, what makes you think anybody is particularly obsessed about 'stereotyping' of races?

Something to do with your raising it on here when it appears to have nothing to do with the subject?