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  • ahinton
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 16123

    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
    You don't mind who does it as long as you get a loyalty card, innit.

    How about John Lewis Partnership?

    Such naice shops.
    Somehow, despite JLP having a positive track record in many ways, it doesn't immediately strike me that a firm that has long since established itself as one of Britain's most consistently profitable retailers would stand much of a chance as a provider of the least profitable areas of healthcare!

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    • Beef Oven!
      Ex-member
      • Sep 2013
      • 18147

      It getting worse for Cameron.

      Two weeks ago he was proud to announce that he'd 'lowered the EU's annual budget'. The EU have announced that they will reverse the cuts, and require EU members to cough up an additional 4 billion Euros each to keep the bloated European old boys club going!!

      And it gets even worse. The EU is now asking Britain to contribute an additional 2 billion Euros, because our economy is 'doing well'!!??? Cameron is squealing that he won't pay it!!!!

      And it gets even worse still, France will get a rebate of 801 million pounds with Germany getting a rebate of 601 million pounds, because their economies haven't done so well in recent months!!!

      Britain is being punished for economic success and France and Germany are being rewarded for failure!!!!

      The EuroFanatic Clegg will no doubt be quiet about this - no knowing what Cameron's going to say about it all.

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      • visualnickmos
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3610

        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
        .....because our economy is 'doing well'!!???
        Exactly! The definitions of "doing well" are almost infinite. For rich corporate bosses, their cohorts, millionaire cabinet ministers - it is, indeed doing very well, thank you. And even LESS tax to pay!

        For someone on very low pay and using food banks, it is total s***t

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        • Beef Oven!
          Ex-member
          • Sep 2013
          • 18147

          Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
          Exactly! The definitions of "doing well" are almost infinite. For rich corporate bosses, their cohorts, millionaire cabinet ministers - it is, indeed doing very well, thank you. And even LESS tax to pay!

          For someone on very low pay and using food banks, it is total s***t
          Ok, that's The Green Party out of the way - how are Cameron and Clegg gonna handle this!!??

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          • Richard Barrett

            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            how are Cameron and Clegg gonna handle this!!??
            Cameron's going to take on an even more kippery aroma no doubt.

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            • Flosshilde
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 7988

              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
              Britain is being punished for economic success
              More accurately, 'Britain' is being 'punished' for its government consistently trumpeting an economic 'success' that is in reality a failure.

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              • ahinton
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 16123

                Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                More accurately, 'Britain' is being 'punished' for its government consistently trumpeting an economic 'success' that is in reality a failure.
                Either way, "...no such undertaking..."

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                • Beef Oven!
                  Ex-member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 18147

                  Originally posted by Richard Barrett View Post
                  Cameron's going to take on an even more kippery aroma no doubt.
                  True. And Clegg?

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    More accurately, 'Britain' is being 'punished' for its government consistently trumpeting an economic 'success' that is in reality a failure.
                    No, not according to our Euro-masters in Strasbourg.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30335

                      Two things to say about this:

                      1. That the reported increase in the UK's 'growth' has been affected by the government's new methodology for calculating it. So, just how much does this contribute to the picture of 'Booming Britain'?

                      2. The Commission report was leaked at this point - the finance ministers have agreed to talks with the UK about the size of the demand - but it's pretty good timing for the byelection on 20 November. The Telegraph agrees that the expected payments for several countries are based on 'freak' situations. Something that the EU has to put right.
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • Beef Oven!
                        Ex-member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 18147

                        Originally posted by french frank View Post
                        ........Something that the EU has to put right.
                        Shouldn't happen in the first place.

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                        • french frank
                          Administrator/Moderator
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 30335

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Shouldn't happen in the first place.
                          I nearly didn't bother to add that bit - which is self evident anyway - as I thought it would be the bit likely to receive a comment!
                          It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                          • ahinton
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 16123

                            Well, it remains to be seen what happens about this amount of money announced as being demanded by early December, but the outcomes will surely be no less than interesting. Britain is not alone in resisting such a demand or having reservations about such demands - the prospect of nation against EU nation looks well less than welcome...

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                            • aeolium
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 3992

                              Originally posted by ahinton View Post
                              the prospect of nation against EU nation looks well less than welcome...
                              Yes, I wonder how the prospect of surcharges is going down in Athens, Nicosia, Rome, especially in the light of hefty rebates for France and Germany. Not for the first time it makes one think whether there are any political antennas in the corridors of EU power....

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by french frank View Post
                                I nearly didn't bother to add that bit - which is self evident anyway - as I thought it would be the bit likely to receive a comment!
                                Always the way, with those last comments that we add, innit!?

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