whence & thither

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2014/oct/01/below-the-poverty-line-slum-britain-in-the-1960s-in-pictures

[P. G. Tipps]

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddes...0s-in-pictures

Shocking ... and it does demonstrate how far things have improved and that 'poverty' today is a relative concept compared with the awful reality of the past.

Of course, hardship for many and huge wealth for a few still exists, sadly ...

[amateur51]

I see the secretary of the Society for the Advancement of Complacency in Cheshire has been at it again ...

fear eats the soul ...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/30/shame-modern-poverty-poor-people-tory-welfare-cuts

and rickets makes your legs go bendy, such an unfashionable look

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/30/child-poverty-link-malnutrition-rickets

[P. G. Tipps]

Can't you contribute to any thread without making snide, juvenile remarks ... ?

Many of us have little interest in tiresome political propaganda and prefer to get our information regarding the world from somewhat more reliable sources:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24835822

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

university tuition is back to the Victorian era?

[visualnickmos]

Seems to me that uni is a waste of time and money. As far as I can tell most kids who go there never end up getting the sort of job they want and studied for - assuming they can get any job at all, that is...

[amateur51]

Can't you contribute to any thread without making snide, juvenile remarks ... ?

Many of us have little interest in tiresome political propaganda and prefer to get our information regarding the world from somewhat more reliable sources:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24835822

Scotty appears to be addressing himself here, a rare and refreshing flash of insight to be sure.

His link contains an apparent selfie headed with "take the 'ignorance test'".

Remarkable honesty.

[aka Calum Da Jazbo]

benefits and tax

[ahinton]

benefits and tax

Cut the benefits, cut the tax, cut the deficit, cut, cut and cut; one can only hope that, once they've cut out NHS, the police service, state education, arts subsidies, legal aid, public transport and all the rest of the inconvenient state-funded panoply with one hand while at the same time abolishing the UK Human Rights Act with the other they'll still be able to find something to cut thereafter otherwise, poor darlings, they might just risk finding themslves out of a job and that would never do, now would it?!

Anyone for privatising Parliament?

[MrGongGong]

Seems to me that uni is a waste of time and money. As far as I can tell most kids who go there never end up getting the sort of job they want and studied for - assuming they can get any job at all, that is...

Why would you go to university to "study for a job" ?
That's not what all it's for at all.

[visualnickmos]

Why would you go to university to "study for a job" ?
That's not what all it's for at all.

Because ultimately one has to put bread on the table.... and whatever word you use for an occupation it is a 'job'

Agreed - there are many things that uni is 'for'

[P. G. Tipps]

Why would you go to university to "study for a job" ?
That's not what all it's for at all.

And who would you expect to pay for that education and the student's future food, clothing and accommodation expenses if he/she had no intention to 'study for a job'?

[amateur51]

And who would you expect to pay for that education and the student's future food, clothing and accommodation expenses if he/she had no intention to 'study for a job'?

In the good old days (yes they were!) of 'free' education many people went to University to learn how to think, rather than to learn how to do.

These days it all has to be made to pay, but where is society's part of the bargain? Students get into debt but where are the jobs commensurate with their education?

[visualnickmos]

And who would you expect to pay for that education and the student's future food, clothing and accommodation expenses if he/she had no intention to 'study for a job'?

Quite so. I suppose a cynical answer (but possibly a correct one) would be to say the taxpayer, as in jobseeker allowance, etc, writing off the student debt......

[MrGongGong]

And who would you expect to pay for that education and the student's future food, clothing and accommodation expenses if he/she had no intention to 'study for a job'?

Sad, sad, sad Scotty
Why do you (and others) assume that becoming more educated means that you won't earn money ?

If all (ALL) education was directed at getting well paid work then it's bye bye History, Music, English and most of the other things we value (including theoretical physics !).

I'm currently involved in re-designing a music degree course. One of the things we are trying to encourage is students to have experiences that change how they think about music. Many of our most exciting composers went to university to study one thing then discovered all sorts of stuff they didn't know existed. Surely THIS is central to what the experience is about?