Inventions by Muslims

[P. G. Tipps]

I think he gets some kind of kick out of tying people up in knots. Or Herefordistan, or wherever. There's a certain character type here on display - I picture the glee as he presses the next point home, ever-reluctant to admit defeat in argument, shifting the goal posts: my dear departed father.

Some members here tie themselves in knots ... they certainly don't require my assistance. Every character on display here is unique ... even you ... we don't all subscribe to the utopian socialist vision of dull, grey uniformity!

And here we go again ... nonsense like 'changing goalposts', 'reluctant to admit defeat' blah blah blah. A bit like the British claiming wartime Dunkirk was 'a great victory' and, at the same time, bitterly accusing the Germans of changing the rules of engagement! :-)

[P. G. Tipps]

Phenomenological considerations aside, I refer you to my message #25

You are at the impressively meaningless phrasing, again, but we are all already aware of your #25.

The relevant post is #11 which, characteristically, you continue to ignore and probably now wish didn't exist. You can always delete it and then we can all get back on topic!

[MrGongGong]

Sorry for mentioning the "Testing Ground"

[P. G. Tipps]

Maybe, but the only person whom he really ties up in knots is himself, especially when few if any other members understand what he's on about some of the time.

"Point", you say? WHen he has one, I can recognise it and agree or disagree as with anyone else; it's when what he says borders on the incomprehensible that any sense of "point" is lost, at least to everyone else but the person making the non-point.

Vintage ahinton ... clear as the proverbial bell!! <laugh>

[amateur51]

You are at the impressively meaningless phrasing, again, but we are all already aware of your #25.

The relevant post is #11 which, characteristically, you continue to ignore and probably now wish didn't exist. You can always delete it and then we can all get back on topic!

Get Mr Rothbards to explain the bits you don't understand, scotty.

[P. G. Tipps]

Get Mr Rothbards to explain the bits you don't understand, scotty.

Now the latest obsession appears to be the poor, unfortunate 'Mr Rothbards' ... as far as I know Mr Rothbards didn't post #11.

You were perfectly entitled to express the opinion in that post regarding "religion" and "inventions", thinking any connection was 'pointless'. That is not the issue. You may even have been correct in your opinion though I did demonstrate an instance where, arguably, a connection isn't 'pointless'. In the face of that you then insisted you had 'not mentioned any of these things' when you demonstrably had done!

So maybe the poster himself might now like to explain the bits I 'don't understand'... ?

No silly talk of "changing goalposts", or any other such juvenile whine, just an explanation!

[amateur51]

Now the latest obsession appears to be the poor, unfortunate 'Mr Rothbards' ... as far as I know Mr Rothbards didn't post #11.

You were perfectly entitled to express the opinion in that post regarding "religion" and "inventions", thinking any connection was 'pointless'. That is not the issue. You may even have been correct in your opinion though I did demonstrate an instance where, arguably, a connection isn't 'pointless'. In the face of that you then insisted you had 'not mentioned any of these things' when you demonstrably had done!

So maybe the poster himself might now like to explain the bits I 'don't understand'... ?

No silly talk of "changing goalposts", or any other such juvenile whine, just an explanation!

My message #25 refers.

Twas not I who initially admitted the apparently eminent Mr Murray N Rothbard in evidence, scotty, twas your good self in your msg # 12.

[P. G. Tipps]

My message #25 refers.

Twas not I who initially admitted the apparently eminent Mr Murray N Rothbard in evidence, scotty, twas your good self in your msg # 12.

Ah-hah ... that little minor irrelevant point is perfectly true, scotty, but again you fail to mention #11.

If there had been no #11 as posted there wouldn't have been a #12 and #25 either, you see, at least in their current form.

You, of all members, are particularly accomplished at simply referring members to your previous posts, as indeed you do here, so your constant failure to refer to #11 is very strange indeed.

I feel certain that this will have absolutely nothing to do with the goalposts at Wrexham FC so maybe you need to take your computer to the local repair shop and get it checked out ... ?

[ahinton]

I feel certain that this will have absolutely nothing to do with the goalposts at Wrexham FC

Did am51 say so? What on earth has Wrexham to do with the price of fish, let alone the topic (I don't imagine that many Muslim inventors have ever lived there).

so maybe you need to take your computer to the local repair shop and get it checked out ... ?

And what's that to do with anything?

At least one usually knew what one was variously disagreeing with and being irritated by on occasion when scotty got into full swing; one of my doubts about you being scotty is that, at times, I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, but perhaps this is just a new ploy to try to muddy the waters of your ID...

[P. G. Tipps]

I don't know what 'scotty' and the 'price of fish' have to do with anything either but there's ahinton logic for you ...

The fact that you haven't the faintest idea what I'm talking about is not in the least surprising, especially as my post was addressed to Member Amateur51 and not you!

[visualnickmos]

.....at times, I don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, but perhaps this is just a new ploy to try to muddy the waters of your ID...

You are definitely not alone there! Impossible to debate anything with someone who never fully engages.....

[ahinton]

I don't know what 'scotty' and the 'price of fish' have to do with anything either but there's ahinton logic for you ...

The permit me to explain. "Scotty" has nothing to do with the topic but my reference to him follows on from a number of like references from various board members who either believe or suspect that you may be scottycelt, a one time member of this forum, or some kind of reincarnation thereof and, as you will note, I appear to harbour more doubts about that possibility than do some others here. "The price of fish" is likewise of no relevance here but that's why I used the phrase in the presednt context; you have surely heard of the expression "what's that got to do with the price of fish?" in contexts where what's being discussed is not "the price of fish" and its use is therefore for the purpose of illustrating an irrelevance by introiducing another one? - or is that too subtle for you?

The fact that you haven't the faintest idea what I'm talking about is not in the least surprising

Given that I am evidently not alone in such lack of understanding, I would agree that it is indeed "not in the least surprising".

especially as my post was addressed to Member Amateur51 and not you!

Had your post been intended for am51 alone, you should have sent him a PM instead; posts on fora, whilst they may address earlier ones by other members (and indeed often do so by quoting them first), are available to be read by all members and so your were effectively addressing all members by providing your response to am51 in the context of posting to a public forum.

[amateur51]

Ah-hah ... that little minor irrelevant point is perfectly true, scotty, but again you fail to mention #11.

If there had been no #11 as posted there wouldn't have been a #12 and #25 either, you see, at least in their current form.

You, of all members, are particularly accomplished at simply referring members to your previous posts, as indeed you do here, so your constant failure to refer to #11 is very strange indeed.

I feel certain that this will have absolutely nothing to do with the goalposts at Wrexham FC so maybe you need to take your computer to the local repair shop and get it checked out ... ?

I wonder how apparently recently-joined Mr Tipps is able to make that football connection with me?

[P. G. Tipps]

I wonder how apparently recently-joined Mr Tipps is able to make that football connection with me?

The fact that Mr P.G. Tipps joined comparatively recently doesn't mean that, previously, he had anything less than a lively interest in the exchanges on this forum, amateur51! Still, at least you understand the connection I made unlike the wholesale confusion that apparently reigns (not reins) in the minds of two other members!

Now ... when are you going to refer back to your own #11? ... that question remains wholly unanswered, I most humbly submit.

[ahinton]

the wholesale confusion that apparently reigns (not reins) in the minds of two other members!

Only two?! Given the amount of confusion that some of your posts are wont to spread, I think that you grevely underestimate the number of members whose minds are duly confused by it!