Fake Dr dies

[visualnickmos]

Excuse me PG Scotty or whoever
I'm now a LORD so less of the Mr if you don't mind
(it's as credible as Bellowheads Dr)

You are really wasting your time with Mr tea bags; he makes statements, blandishments, assertions etc, and yet never is never able to back them up when asked. The only thing he seems to get off on, is winding up people who actually would like a debate that progresses and evolves, without weak attempts at smart-arse ripostes.

[Beef Oven!]

HA HA

Huddersfield IS a "proper" university and a mighty fine music degree you get from there IMV (I'll send the BACS details by email OK !)

Btw, your beloved Guardian newspaper ranks Huddersfield's music degree as low as 44!!!

[P. G. Tipps]

You are really wasting your time with Mr tea bags; he makes statements, blandishments, assertions etc, and yet never is never able to back them up when asked. The only thing he seems to get off on, is winding up people who actually would like a debate that progresses and evolves, without weak attempts at smart-arse ripostes.

Are you absolutely sure you didn't once teach at a school in Glasgow, visualnickmos ... ?

The striking resemblance to some of my much-loved old school-reports is uncanny!

[ahinton]

No it's not, it's just your (and MrGongGong's) personal opinion which has absolutely nothing to do with whether Dr Paisley was entitled to be so addressed.

You have already told MrGongGong that the honorary doctorate was not a 'fake' so you are actually in agreement with me, and not him, and yet you don't seem to realise it?

Quite extraordinary, ahinton!

What's "extraordinary" about it?! I said that the university that conferred it is genuine, that the degree itself is genuine and that, accordingly, IP was entitled to be addessed as "Dr" by anyone choosing to do so; the fact that, in these matters, I do not disagree with you is what's "not the point", since I nonetheless maintain - as do many others - that honouring IP in this way, given his sometimes deplorable behaviour (all the more so given his position within the Church) was at best a questionable action.

I don't see how I could be clearer than that.

[ahinton]

Are you absolutely sure you didn't once teach at a school in Glasgow, visualnickmos ... ?

The striking resemblance to some of my much-loved old school-reports is uncanny!

Which country is Glasgow in?

No, I'm not going there! (by which I do not, of course, mean Glasgow)...

Are you absolutely sure that, had visualnickmos ever taught in a Glasgow school, he'd not have realised it without being prompted to do so?

[ahinton]

I'm now a LORD so less of the Mr if you don't mind

...which places you higher on the social scale than our Tippster, who isn't even Earl Grey...

[P. G. Tipps]

What's "extraordinary" about it?! I said that the university that conferred it is genuine, that the degree itself is genuine and that, accordingly, IP was entitled to be addessed as "Dr" by anyone choosing to do so; the fact that, in these matters, I do not disagree with you is what's "not the point", since I nonetheless maintain - as do many others - that honouring IP in this way, given his sometimes deplorable behaviour (all the more so given his position within the Church) was at best a questionable action.

I don't see how I could be clearer than that.

Excellent, ahinton!

So to heavily precis your comments to the nitty-gritty of the issue, you now confirm that you agree with me (and not MrGongGong) that the honorary degree awarded to the late Dr Paisley was not a 'fake'. You also offer your own personal opinion on the suitability (or not) of the award but, of course, that is not the issue and does not make the award any less genuine, as I'm sure you will agree.

That is now clear as a bell, ahinton, and I thank you for your helpful clarification!

[MrGongGong]

Excellent, ahinton!

So to heavily precis your comments to the nitty-gritty of the issue, you now confirm that you agree with me (and not MrGongGong) that the honorary degree awarded to the late Dr Paisley was not a 'fake'. You also offer your own personal opinion on the suitability (or not) of the award but, of course, that is not the issue and does not make the award any less genuine, as I'm sure you will agree.

That is now clear as a bell, ahinton, and I thank you for your helpful clarification!

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthread.php?799-Pedants-Paradise&highlight=pedants+corner

Lord G

[P. G. Tipps]

http://www.for3.org/forums/showthrea...pedants+corner

Lord G

Ahhh.. so you now appear to be disassociating yourself from your very own thread and title, Mr GongGong?

Interesting ... :-)

[ahinton]

Excellent, ahinton!

So to heavily precis your comments to the nitty-gritty of the issue, you now confirm that you agree with me (and not MrGongGong) that the honorary degree awarded to the late Dr Paisley was not a 'fake'. You also offer your own personal opinion on the suitability (or not) of the award but, of course, that is not the issue and does not make the award any less genuine, as I'm sure you will agree.

That is now clear as a bell, ahinton, and I thank you for your helpful clarification!

It's nothing that I'd not already said before. Who agrees (or disagrees) with who here isn't the point (as once again I've already pointed out); the degree itself wasn't a fake but, as it was wholly undeserved, it might as well have been, so I am by no means totally at odds with MrGG here.

[MrGongGong]

Ahhh.. so you now appear to be disassociating yourself from your very own thread and title, Mr GongGong?

Interesting ... :-)

You are taking yourself too seriously
Paisley was a nasty horrible divisive bigot to used the mask of "Christianity" to try and justify his behaviour.
Most people who get to be called Dr have either worked very hard indeed for it OR done something outstanding in the world
HE did neither IMV

[P. G. Tipps]

It's nothing that I'd not already said before. Who agrees (or disagrees) with who here isn't the point (as once again I've already pointed out); the degree itself wasn't a fake but, as it was wholly undeserved, it might as well have been, so I am by no means totally at odds with MrGG here.

Ah-hah ... not for the first time, I had completely misunderstood you, ahinton.

Your view appears to be that the degree was valid as confirmed previously but because you think it was 'wholly undeserved' it might as well have been invalid?

So it has been arbitrarily determined that the deceased's degree is now in effect invalid ... or semi-valid maybe?

I apologise, ahinton, things weren't quite as clear as I had thought, and indeed you are rather closer to Mr GongGong's view after all!

[ahinton]

Ah-hah ... not for the first time, I had completely misunderstood you, ahinton.

Through no fault of mine, methinks.

Your view appears to be that the degree was valid as confirmed previously but because you think it was 'wholly undeserved' it might as well have been invalid?

Got it in one - well, no, actually; got it in about tewnty-eleven, but got it in the end anyway...

So it has been arbitrarily determined that the deceased's degree is now in effect invalid ... or semi-valid maybe?

There is no arbitrariness about it and it's neither more nor less invalid now that he's dead than it was when he was alive.

I apologise, ahinton, things weren't quite as clear as I had thought, and indeed you are rather closer to Mr GongGong's view after all!

I accept your apology.

[P. G. Tipps]

I accept your apology.

Thank you, ahinton ... a typically generous gesture on your part, if I may say so ... and I shall now throw my silly Learner's Book of Logic straight into the bin, forthwith!

[visualnickmos]

Thank you, ahinton ... a typically generous gesture on your part, if I may say so ... and I shall now throw my silly Learner's Book of Logic straight into the bin, forthwith!

ahinton always comes across as very generous of spirit; and your final point: could be a life-changing decision on your part !