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  • MrGongGong
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    • Nov 2010
    • 18357

    Fake Dr dies

    He wasn't a "doctor"



    but seemed to become more human later in his life
  • Dave2002
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    • Dec 2010
    • 18025

    #2
    Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
    He wasn't a "doctor"
    I believe that is the case. I don't think he ever claimed to have any medical expertise, but he may have claimed academic credentials. Perhaps he was one who paid his $100 or whatever the going rate was, and then received a certificate.

    I agree that he did appear to become more sympathetic later on.

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    • P. G. Tipps
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      • Jun 2014
      • 2978

      #3
      The title had little to do with medicine!

      He received an honorary Doctorate of Divinity certificate from some Protestant sect in the US.

      For me, Ian Paisley's astonishing and apparently sudden conversion from ranting bigot to crucial N. Ireland peacemaker was right up there with the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid.

      Ian Paisley R.I.P.

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      • Richard Tarleton

        #4
        He received his doctorate from the fundamentalist Bob Jones University in Greenville, S Carolina, in 1966.

        Currently obits on PM, I won't even try, far too complicated but came good in the end. I remember seeing him in a city centre bookshop in Belfast around 1980 - I was looking at bird books, the big man entered with an equally big detective and they swept through to the religious books section at the back. In those days it was quite normal to find yourself on the plane between Belfast and London (Gate 47, Heathrow) with the likes of Ian Paisley and Gerry Fitt, polar opposites chatting amicably together....

        An American I knew slightly was studying fundamentalist protestant sects in N Ireland and, in the spirit of research, attended (Paisley's) Martyr's Memorial Church a few times in the role of a worshipper. He was finally approached, on the way out one Sunday, and invited to give an address at a future service. This he did, remaining in character throughout. Scary.
        Last edited by Guest; 13-09-14, 06:56. Reason: wrong link!

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        • Flosshilde
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7988

          #5
          Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
          For me, Ian Paisley's astonishing and apparently sudden conversion from ranting bigot to crucial N. Ireland peacemaker was right up there with the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid.
          I think they were a little more believable.

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          • MrGongGong
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            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            #6
            Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
            For me, Ian Paisley's astonishing and apparently sudden conversion from ranting bigot to crucial N. Ireland peacemaker was right up there with the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid.
            Becoming a "peacemaker" in a conflict that he had a crucial role in creating?

            Trevor Wishart's : Stentor .... is the soundtrack we need at this moment

            (you can hear an excerpt here http://www.grooves-inc.co.uk/wishart...898674783.html)

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            • Serial_Apologist
              Full Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 37715

              #7
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              Becoming a "peacemaker" in a conflict that he had a crucial role in creating?

              Trevor Wishart's : Stentor .... is the soundtrack we need at this moment

              (you can hear an excerpt here http://www.grooves-inc.co.uk/wishart...898674783.html)
              Or maybe "The Grand Old Duke of York"?

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              • amateur51

                #8
                Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                The title had little to do with medicine!

                He received an honorary Doctorate of Divinity certificate from some Protestant sect in the US.

                For me, Ian Paisley's astonishing and apparently sudden conversion from ranting bigot to crucial N. Ireland peacemaker was right up there with the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid.

                Ian Paisley R.I.P.
                Where do you rank his 'Save Ulster From Sodomy' campaign, scotty?

                I put him up there with Anita Bryant, me.

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                • amateur51

                  #9
                  Unsurprisingly, Paisley was the subject of many death threats and he was granted protection in the form of police units that would check out and monitor any hotel/B&B he was staying in on his speaking tours.

                  On several occasions the officers on watch outside his hotel would be alerted by the sound of sirens & lights coming on in the hotel in the early hours. To their relief and delight, it transpired that The Great Man was not as confident a speaker as he appeared and he would often get up, unable to sleep, to review the next day's speech. He took with him everywhere an electric toaster to make himself a snack in such circumstances and it would be the toaster that had set off the hotel's smoke alarm that cause all the kerfuffle.

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                  • Flosshilde
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                    • Nov 2010
                    • 7988

                    #10
                    Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                    Where do you rank his 'Save Ulster From Sodomy' campaign,
                    Extremely rank.

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                    • visualnickmos
                      Full Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 3610

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      Becoming a "peacemaker" in a conflict that he had a crucial role in creating?
                      Exactly. Spot on.

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                      • visualnickmos
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3610

                        #12
                        Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
                        For me, Ian Paisley's astonishing and apparently sudden conversion from ranting bigot to crucial N. Ireland peacemaker was right up there with the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid.

                        Ian Paisley R.I.P.
                        I am assuming you are winding us up.

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                        • P. G. Tipps
                          Full Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 2978

                          #13
                          Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                          Where do you rank his 'Save Ulster From Sodomy' campaign, scotty?

                          I put him up there with Anita Bryant, me.
                          Oh dear, we're back to this weird 'scotty' guy again. Please have the courtesy to refer to my proper name, amateur51. It is important that your replies are directed to the correctly-named member or confusion will inevitably result.

                          In ranking order, Sodomites were probably way down the Rev Ian's list of sinners compared to Papists, that's for sure! In any case, he was entitled to his opinions like everyone else?

                          Sorry, I've never actually heard of someone called Anita Bryant, me, but I'll consult Wikipedia forthwith!

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                          • visualnickmos
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3610

                            #14
                            IP was a raving stirrer.

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                            • P. G. Tipps
                              Full Member
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 2978

                              #15
                              Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
                              I am assuming you are winding us up.
                              Not at all.

                              Dr Paisley's transformation was quite extraordinary and certainly on at least the same level of surprise as the collapse of communism and the end of apartheid if hardly on the same scale.

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