Originally posted by P. G. Tipps
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I can't believe that you - an intelligent person, I thought, - would be taken in by such a - what, let's say scoundrel. You surely cannot believe he did what he did willingly?????? -
You don't agree, then ... ?Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
Whether willingly or not he certainly changed his stance in quite a remarkable way.
I thought that this might be common knowledge and even understood by not particularly intelligent persons?Comment
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Oh, come on, please. What are you trying to prove. What you thought might be common knowledge is one thing. Reality is something else.Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View PostComment
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It is remarkable how someone who for most of his adult life was a nasty, loud-mouthed bigot suddenly becomes a loveable old rogue when he dies.Comment
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The media. Don't yer just love 'em? NOT! Still, some on here seem to believe them. Another cup of tea, I think.Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostComment
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Prove? I have absolutely nothing to prove in the matter! Any opinion of mine or yours doesn't count when we are dealing with recorded facts.Originally posted by visualnickmos View Post
One man who certainly does know the facts was his deputy in the first power-sharing government in N.I. and an ex-IRA commander to boot.. He is unlikely to be unaware of reality and, of course, he himself made something of a transformation. Did the 'media' force the two men to ultimately become very close family friends?
Whether any of this sea-change in attitude and behaviour towards previously sworn enemies was 'willing' or not, only the two men would have known. The one thing beyond dispute is that it happened.
As one who was beaten up by a gang of Orangemen in the late 1960s, I don't need to be told about the hysterical intolerance of the earlier Mr Paisley's sermons and speeches and indeed described him as a 'ranting bigot' in my first post.
Maybe my point is that sometimes, just sometimes, miracles do happen. It seems to me a little bit churlish to deny that, in the end, Dr Paisley saw and walked straight into the light of progress and reconciliation, and instead prefer to dwell on his long and destructive period in the darkness?Comment
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HE WASN'T A DOCTOR
Why do people (and the BBC do this) keep referring to him as one?
Lord Gong of Stilton, OBE, CBE, DOREMI
see anyone can do it !Comment
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Pedant's corner: he was given an honorary doctorate in divinity by a religiously fundamentalist university in the USA in 1966, but an accredited university nevertheless. This would have entitled him to be called Doctor,and to call himself Doctor.
I've corrected the link in #4 in case anyone's interested, it led somewhere else altogether as Dave kindly pointed out.Comment
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Well nobody need refer to him as a 'doctor' ... trust me!Originally posted by MrGongGong View PostComment
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Do you refer to the lately deceased party or to scotty who says he doesn't exist?Originally posted by Flosshilde View PostComment
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Did scotty ever actually say that The Reverend Doctor Paisley doesn't (or didn't) exist? I hadn't realised that, but then it's a while since scotty's been around these parts and I didn't always read his every word in the days when his presence was noted here...Originally posted by amateur51 View PostComment
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I see there was a large Unionist rally in Edinburgh this morning: banners and flags from all over the rest of the UK including N Ireland, the report said. A shame Ian Paisley had to die: he could have called a stop to it.Comment
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