Now, let's see. There couldn't be an election on the horizon, could there?!
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Now, let's see. There couldn't be an election on the horizon, could there?! -
According to Today this morning there is no actual identifiable increased threat as such, they just thought they'd bump it up because of what's going on in the world, end of school hols, onset of Autumn, big sofa sales on telly, Party Conferences etc. -
That's okay then ... we can all now sleep soundly in our beds knowing those horrid men (and women) are not really out to cut our heads off/blow us up 'cos that nice Mr Humphrys says so ... :-)Originally posted by amateur51 View PostComment
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True - and, after all, there remains one more notch up to which that terrorist threat perception can be upgraded, which somehow seems to tie in with the OP's question "there couldn't be an election on the horizon, could there?" to the extent that, as there's more than eight months to go before it's scheduled to occur, there remains plenty of time in which both to implement that upgrade and also possibly to invent and implement new higher alert risk scenarios, for whatever reason or none.Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
Of course, the fact that certain accused Jihadists are alleged (and might be proved) to be British could work both ways - one to seem to protect Britain againt the risk of attack and the other to focus attention upon it as a kind of hotbed of Jihadists to be vilified as such by other European countries as such; the likelihood, to me, is that it will go both ways.Last edited by ahinton; 31-08-14, 08:49.Comment
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Have these jihadists the capability to launch an attack in the UK even if they wanted to?
If we bomb them and kill their people what do we expect?
A couple of questions to sort out!"The sound is the handwriting of the conductor" - Bernard HaitinkComment
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Haven't jihadists already launched attacks in the UK ..?Originally posted by Petrushka View Post
It's 'them' who are engaged in the genocide of fellow-Muslims and others, cutting innocent journalists heads off, and other savage atrocities. Should the West stand by and do absolutely nothing, especially as we know it could easily be members of our own families' heads and other body parts lying in shopping-centres and on the streets of the UK when the British jihadists in Syria and Iraq eventually return?
Two more questions to sort out!Comment
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You mean British citizens returning from Muslim war zones after fighting there for one side or another?Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
If so, I'm not aware of any - do tell & detail their UK attacks.
There was the case of those four men who were arrested in a London street quite a while back; two were released in due course but I've heard no news subsequently.Google searches reveal nothing further. Isn't our transparent justice system marvellous?
I've asked elsewhere but received no answer - is it possible to search this dungeon forum and if so, how? And if not etc.
Two more questions to sort out.Comment
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you missed the key change - The USA wanted yet more details of passengers on EU flights (they want to get 1M names on their nofly list by time Obama leaves office) - the EU was playing hard ball - after all do you trust US companies or government not to reuse such info - anyway Camerloon has now given in - the rest is pure Daily Wail headline fodder except for giving Police the power to keep you in the UK - after all given their great performance over Rotherham, South Yorkshire or that total foul up with the highly dangerous 'fast track' European arrest warrent I'm sure their judgement will be impeccableComment
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No, is your first travel criteria essential before you consider a Jihadist/Extreme Islamic atrocity in the UK valid?Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
I can think of at least three such atrocities where at least two had a clear home-grown 'Islamic' element.
a) The 7/7 London bombings where many innocent souls perished
b) The largely foiled Glasgow Airport car-bombing.
c) The savage murder and attempted decapitation of soldier Lee Rigby on a London street.
Naturally, all these events made huge world headlines. Two of them happened not a great distance from where you claim to reside.
If you have somehow managed to forget all three there is always Google to refresh your memory and reflect how many innocent families in the UK have suffered loss of lfe and limb at the hands of these self-styled 'Jihadist/Islamic' savages.Comment
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I suppose Cameron has only himself to blame for such a view.Originally posted by Stillhomewardbound View Post
He is forever appearing on our TV screens playing to the public gallery on just about everything under the sun, so when there is a real crisis people have already switched-off.
Furthermore, standing earnest-faced on a presidential-style podium in front of two carefully-placed national flags at either side may strike a chord with the American viewer, but is hardly likely to impress the much more politically-cynical 'Brit'?Comment
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I think you'll find that the people you describe above were referred to by the British (inc Scottish) media and British politicians as 'terrorists'.Originally posted by P. G. Tipps View Post
The ones that The Maceroon and the Home Secretary are having pups about currently are referred to as 'jihadists'.As far as I know there have been no atrocities committed thus far by this group. You of course may know something different.
Apparently there is a difference and I was attempting to clarify which ones you meant.Comment
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I'll simply ignore your first two rather silly paragraphs.Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
As to your third, I would hope that you might care to check some simple and widely-known facts, and discover that a 'jihadist' can belong to any number of terrorist 'groups' not just one!Comment
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Now now, no need to go hissy just because you've been rumbledOriginally posted by P. G. Tipps View PostComment
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