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  • aka Calum Da Jazbo
    Late member
    • Nov 2010
    • 9173

    Pope Francis

    the quality press go for the Scotland issue or ditching the mobile; for once the Mail gets the point

    Our global economic system can’t take any more. We discard a whole generation to maintain an economic system that no longer endures'
    Pope Francis
    &c

    where can we vote for this man [he just sacked the gangsters in the Vatican Bank]?
    According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.
  • ardcarp
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    • Nov 2010
    • 11102

    #2
    Indeed, strange for the Mail to have a bash at capitalism. There's much to admire in what Il Papa says. But youth unemployment would not be such an issue if the childbirth rate fell. [Can't do a winkeye on this sub sub-forum!]

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    • jean
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      • Nov 2010
      • 7100

      #3
      Youth unemployment is a serious problem even in countries where the birth rate is not even at replacement levels.

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      • teamsaint
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        • Nov 2010
        • 25211

        #4
        Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
        Indeed, strange for the Mail to have a bash at capitalism. There's much to admire in what Il Papa says. But youth unemployment would not be such an issue if the childbirth rate fell. [Can't do a winkeye on this sub sub-forum!]
        One might usefully ask why youth unemployment is so high, when at the same time retirement ages are being pushed ever upwards.
        I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

        I am not a number, I am a free man.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37715

          #5
          Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
          Indeed, strange for the Mail to have a bash at capitalism. There's much to admire in what Il Papa says. But youth unemployment would not be such an issue if the childbirth rate fell. [Can't do a winkeye on this sub sub-forum!]
          Not sure the Wail is actually criticising capitalism per se in that article - its respondents certainly aren't! I think the thing is, that the ruling class fall back on the rhetoric of nationalism whenever their system hits the buffers, caught as they are between needing to expand globally in order to compete profitably and falling back on the nation state in inevitable times of crisis. If capitalists could solve the problem of the innate tendency in the system to periodic over-production without mass unemployment, they would abandon their fallback, the nation state, altogether; but mass unemployment is their most useful political weapon in their arsenal of divide-and-rule.

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          • ardcarp
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            • Nov 2010
            • 11102

            #6
            The pope's words, as translated and as they appear in Mail Online do not mention the word 'capitalism', referring instead to 'the global ecocnomy'. But...

            ...we have put money at the centre, the god of money. We have fallen into a sin of idolatry, the idolatry of money.
            What else can he be talking about?

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            • Serial_Apologist
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              • Dec 2010
              • 37715

              #7
              Originally posted by ardcarp View Post
              The pope's words, as translated and as they appear in Mail Online do not mention the word 'capitalism', referring instead to 'the global ecocnomy'. But...



              What else can he be talking about?
              What was Jesus talking about? {rhetorical question emoticon}

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              • aka Calum Da Jazbo
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                • Nov 2010
                • 9173

                #8
                the Pope on conscience and belief
                According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe.

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                • ardcarp
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 11102

                  #9
                  ...summed up in the Indy headline:

                  You don’t have to believe in God to go to heaven

                  Phew. That's a relief.

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