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  • Flosshilde
    Full Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 7988

    #46
    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
    I only arseked....

    Didn't know you could clock up a limit and then have to pay, ammy, sorry... Text copied below
    Cali, you have heard of the Copyright legislation, haven't you?




    (I bet you wish you'd never started this thread)

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    • Nick Armstrong
      Host
      • Nov 2010
      • 26541

      #47
      .....
      "...the isle is full of noises,
      Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
      Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
      Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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      • french frank
        Administrator/Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 30334

        #48
        Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
        Cali, you have heard of the Copyright legislation, haven't you?
        For goodness sake, Floss, it isn't as if he a media lawyer who's savvy about these internet niceties :-)
        It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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        • Nick Armstrong
          Host
          • Nov 2010
          • 26541

          #49
          Fair dealing for criticism and/or review*, innit.





          *Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 section 30 <tongue sticky-out emoticon>
          "...the isle is full of noises,
          Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
          Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
          Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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          • Flosshilde
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 7988

            #50
            I believe that there's a limit to how much you can quote - ie, not the whole thing :smiley:

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            • Nick Armstrong
              Host
              • Nov 2010
              • 26541

              #51
              Nothing hard and fast. But anyway I happily resisted any temptation to copy the whole newspaper!
              "...the isle is full of noises,
              Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
              Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
              Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #52
                When I was a librarian the advice was no more than 10% - and a newspaper or journal article would count as an individual item (ie you could only quote 10% from it).

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                • Nick Armstrong
                  Host
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 26541

                  #53
                  It all depends...! <bigwink>
                  "...the isle is full of noises,
                  Sounds and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
                  Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
                  Will hum about mine ears, and sometime voices..."

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                  • french frank
                    Administrator/Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 30334

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                    It all depends...! <bigwink>
                    The Times picked up on something M. Vinteuil copied, and told us to remove it. But, for some reason, I don't think the forum is getting its posts crawled as it used to. I suspect publishers had only to put an identifiable phrase like "pale about the gills and generally discombobulated" to show up any other 'hits'. I just did that and it shows a number of hits - but not us.

                    Anyway - I know a good lawyer :-)
                    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                    • amateur51

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                      Saltbif rather than Rosbif, alors...
                      :laugh:

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                      • ahinton
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 16123

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Caliban View Post
                        Saltbif rather than Rosbif, alors...
                        Same Oven! though, prsumably...

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                        • Serial_Apologist
                          Full Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 37715

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Nick Armstrong View Post




                          Click on the comments, too...

                          I found it not entirely devoid of common sense :whistle:
                          Prompted by recent discussion on the What are you reading now? thread, I thought I would retrieve this post from 10 years ago, in case anybody considered it worthwhile following it up?

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                          • french frank
                            Administrator/Moderator
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 30334

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
                            in case anybody considered it worthwhile following it up?
                            I would but I'm not sure many here would :smiley:

                            Because it was brought up on the other thread, I would take up the point about education, albeit, I suspect, in a rather different direction than was intended. Education was something of which girls were deprived, and in some societies still are. In the UK women were not allowed to enter universities (Oxbridge essentially at this time). When they were finally admitted to Cambridge they were not allowed to graduate. When they were granted admission, one student Philippa Fawcett was the first woman to take the Cambridge Mathematics Tripos. She graduated with the top marks for her year but wasn't allowed the traditional title of Senior Wrangler which was a title for men only. This went to the student who came second that year. Nor, as a woman, was she granted a degree. Fawcett's mother was a suffragette. Both had to struggle in a man's world.

                            When I was teaching in Aberdeen way back in the 70s, the medical school's policy was to accept a broadly equal male/female ratio for its students. There was some controversy when the women applicants on average had better exam results so there had to be adjustments to make sure the men were fully represented. Teenage girls still do better than boys in school exams supposedly because, on the whole, they tend to work harder and more conscientiously. And one sees where all this goes. Andrew Tate.

                            That's just one aspect: I could quote others.
                            It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                            • smittims
                              Full Member
                              • Aug 2022
                              • 4210

                              #59
                              I was interested in the reference to Wittgenstein's concept of 'Blik' which I hadn't come across before. I've found that when women who complain about sexism make sexist remarks themselves and are reproved, they react with incredulity, as if it had not occured to them that women could be sexist. And I think the tendency to see 'misogyny' everywhere ,when a man says something a woman doesn't agree with, is an example of 'Blik'.

                              The last ten years have shown that many women have not taken Natasha Devon's advice. Behavour provokes behaviour, sadly. I don't think sexism will be diminished unless we have equality of utterrance. Many of you will have noted the recent incident where a woman on a TV show has been acclaimed for 'calling out' what was seen as an example of men not understanding women's situation. I don't think such publicity would be given if a man 'called out' a sexist remark by a woman. If anything he'd be called a 'misogynist'.

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                              • vinteuil
                                Full Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 12846

                                #60
                                Originally posted by smittims View Post
                                I was interested in the reference to Wittgenstein's concept of 'Blik' which I hadn't come across before.
                                A pedant writes : it was the English moral philosopher RM Hare [1919-2002], not the Viennese analytical and linguistic philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein [1889-1951], who introduced the concept of blik

                                After he encountered difficulties with the verification principle, Anthony Flew developed the idea that a statement could be verifiable if the empirical evidence that would prove it was false was known.




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                                Last edited by vinteuil; 08-11-24, 13:44.

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