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  • Serial_Apologist
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    • Dec 2010
    • 37715

    Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
    I call it increasing social and economic equality, which is what it is. You call it the politics of envy.

    When I see some solid proof where societies work better when increasing income inequality occurs, then I might reconsider any position I might have.

    " The politics of envy" is a worthless and divisive expression.
    Exactly - and it ignores the fact that money confers power, though, of course, they don't believe in educating people to see that.

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    • teamsaint
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      • Nov 2010
      • 25211

      Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
      Exactly - and it ignores the fact that money confers power, though, of course, they don't believe in educating people to see that.
      or much else, other than to keep the treadmill running, and to value competition above all else.
      I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

      I am not a number, I am a free man.

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      • Beef Oven!
        Ex-member
        • Sep 2013
        • 18147

        Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
        I call it increasing social and economic equality, which is what it is. You call it the politics of envy.

        When I see some solid proof where societies work better when increasing income inequality occurs, then I might reconsider any position I might have.

        " The politics of envy" is a worthless and divisive expression.
        Call it what you want, Winkle - it's the politics of envy. Worried about what others have got, when everyone's got at least what they need.

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        • Serial_Apologist
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          • Dec 2010
          • 37715

          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
          Call it what you want, Winkle - it's the politics of envy. Worried about what others have got, when everyone's got at least what they need.
          So presumably you think if those in the lower ranks of society stopped being envious, those at the top would, er, operate more honestly, and trickle some of their power and wealth down the social food chain. Fat chance.

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          • teamsaint
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 25211

            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
            Call it what you want, Winkle - it's the politics of envy. Worried about what others have got, when everyone's got at least what they need.
            Show me a report that says its good for a society to have increasing inequality, and there is a debate to be had. Till then phrases like " The politics of envy" are meaningless.

            Not everybody has what they need, And some people have far more than they can ever use,but still want more. No time to play semantics.
            I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

            I am not a number, I am a free man.

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              Originally posted by teamsaint View Post
              Show me a report that says its good for a society to have increasing inequality, and there is a debate to be had. Till then phrases like " The politics of envy" are meaningless.

              Not everybody has what they need, And some people have far more than they can ever use,but still want more. No time to play semantics.
              Read an issue of Viz. You're not yourself when you've been reading The Morning Star.

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              • vinteuil
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                • Nov 2010
                • 12846

                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                Read an issue of Viz...
                ... of course. I should have guessed. Beef Oven is a 'character' from the pages of Viz. All is explained.

                .
                :weary emoticon:

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                • teamsaint
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                  • Nov 2010
                  • 25211

                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  Read an issue of Viz. You're not yourself when you've been reading The Morning Star.
                  Where is the link to the report ? did I miss it?
                  I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                  I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                  • Serial_Apologist
                    Full Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 37715

                    The last time I read the Morning Tsar, it was some miles to the right of Stalingrad.

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                    • amateur51

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      67% of the polls agree with you!

                      Nigel's really rocking!
                      Isn't this choice what they call the evil of two lessers?

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                      • Ariosto

                        Originally posted by amateur51 View Post
                        Isn't this choice what they call the evil of two lessers?
                        What do you want am? Labour and Blair going to war? Cameron and all the lies and bullshit? Clegg and the same bullshit? We need something new.

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                        • MrGongGong
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 18357

                          Originally posted by Ariosto View Post
                          What do you want am? Labour and Blair going to war? Cameron and all the lies and bullshit? Clegg and the same bullshit? We need something new.
                          Absolutely
                          and the kippers are something old
                          same old nonsense i'm afraid

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                            Absolutely
                            and the kippers are something old
                            same old nonsense i'm afraid
                            The UKIP is new, refreshing - re-shaping British politics. A new era of non-rhetoric common-sense politics has begun, hurrah for that!

                            Your favourite newspaper, the Gwerdian, has joined in the revolution - it's own poll puts Nigel at 69% versus Clegg!!

                            The UKIP has already destroyed the Conservatives and will deal a death-blow to the Liberal Democrats (if that hasn't already happened). Landslide victory in the May European elections and who knows what next!!

                            Much of their success is due to people like yourself. Although you don't know much about politics, your curiosity has kept them in the limelight. Well done, keep it up!

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                            • MrGongGong
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 18357

                              Blimey days
                              You are Terry F*ckwit and I claim my £100

                              There's nothing "new" about the same old nonsense that nige spouts
                              nothing new at all

                              You have a very strange understanding of what the word "refreshing" means
                              Something "NEW" would be a great idea
                              but I can't see that anywhere

                              "Common-sense" ....???? Yeah right, it used to be "common-sense" that the Sun went round the earth

                              Just more lies i'm afraid
                              just like all the rest

                              Nige is ALL rhetoric, made up "facts" and delusional carp

                              and as for "reshaping politics"
                              if you take a t*rd
                              mould it into a statue of Kermit the Frog
                              it's still a t*rd
                              Last edited by MrGongGong; 03-04-14, 22:16. Reason: Edited for the sensitive souls who like everything to be nice

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                              • Beef Oven!
                                Ex-member
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 18147

                                Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                                Blimey days
                                You are Terry Fuckwit and I claim my £100

                                There's nothing "new" about the same old nonsense that nige spouts
                                nothing new at all

                                You have a very strange understanding of what the word "refreshing" means
                                Something "NEW" would be a great idea
                                but I can't see that anywhere

                                "Common-sense" ....???? Yeah right, it used to be "common-sense" that the Sun went round the earth

                                Just more lies i'm afraid
                                just like all the rest

                                Nige is ALL rhetoric, made up "facts" and delusional crap

                                and as for "reshaping politics"
                                if you take a turd
                                mould it into a statue of Kermit the Frog
                                it's still a turd
                                So how come The Snu, The Gwerdian and Jeremy Clarkson are backing him? Answer that, while still trying to remain trendy!

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