Clegg V Farage

[MrGongGong]

We thought the referendum was about an economic community, not a political union!

You'd just passed your 11 plus and would be off to a smart grammar school the following year, so leave it to us who can remember better! :winkeye:

Aha your Mojo returns

and pray tell me what does the word "Community" mean ?

A group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common:

Montreal’s Italian community
the gay community in London
the scientific community

MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
SYNONYMS
1.1A group of people living together and practising common ownership:
a community of nuns

Seems fine to me ?

Some folks don't seem to be able to understand simple words.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Hey, when I voted YES to the European Community I was thinking of the Paris Commune.

Viva 1871!

"It is but a short step from the pulpit to the lampost" ~ Jacque Herbert. 1790.

[ahinton]

Watch the broadcasts and he'll tell you.

Sorry - my question was intended to be read as a rhetorical one and might therefore have been better expressed had I instead writtten that "if NF therefore appears to consider EU membership to be good enough for 27 other member states it must be OK for this one unless he has incontrovertible proof acceptable to and recognisable as such by the majority of British people that there is something about Britain that is so fundamentally different from all other EU member states that it would be reasonable for it alone to exit from EU; that said, such a stance would, I submit, come across to quite a few people as a dangerously arrogant and presumptuous one coming as it does from the leader of a party which (Wiki informs us) a mere six months ago held less than one in eight of UK's seats in the European Parliament, had just three members in the House of Lords, held one seat in the Northern Ireland Assembly but has never won a seat in the House of Commons (my italics). The public credibility of a leader of a political party that has not a single MP in office in Great Britain is by definition rather more at risk than that of a party with elected MPs; whilst he and his party are as entitled to his views as is/are anyone else, their unelected status does little to suggest that his trenchant and truculent position on Britain's EU membership does him or his party any favours (although it's far from obvious what their principal policies would be were they to drop this "Britain out" stance).

[Ariosto]

Oh dear, now I know why I left this forum for 18 months!

Mr Gong seems to have completely lost it. Pretentious hardly covers it ...

Bye

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

Well, it wasn't that long ago that Nige completely disowned his own manifesto as "bonkers" and a bit earlier announced that they had no real policies so "would have to buy some in" (sic). From the Cash and Carry think tank?

Its not a political party, its an end of pier re-run of "Carry On Nurse" with Nige in the Sid James role.

[MrGongGong]

Oh dear, now I know why I left this forum for 18 months!

Mr Gong seems to have completely lost it. Pretentious hardly covers it ...

Bye

So long youngster :santa:

[Alison]

Trust the people to what ?
It's odd that we never get to vote on things that are REALLY important
like surgery, flying aeroplanes or whether to double dot the semiquavers in Handel ?

I think the clue was in the words

European Economic COMMUNITY ?
What on earth did folks think they were voting for ?

I guess the question could be

Do you believe a pathological liar
or
a deranged rude buffoon ?

Bum choice innit

Trust the people to answer the clear question.

Suppose you think most people aren't as clever as you and not capable of voting.

[Alison]

Thought you stood for the masses, dear Gongers.

How disappointing. You're for the intelligent class only I fancy.

[gurnemanz]

Well, it wasn't that long ago that Nige completely disowned his own manifesto as "bonkers" and a bit earlier announced that they had no real policies so "would have to buy some in" (sic). From the Cash and Carry think tank?

Its not a political party, its an end of pier re-run of "Carry On Nurse" with Nige in the Sid James role.

That's what makes it alarming that sane people vote for him, even it might be on a rather desperate "none of the above" basis.

[BLUESNIK'S REVOX]

That's what makes it alarming that sane people vote for him, even it might be on a rather desperate "none of the above" basis.

Because its not about rationality but Farage's ability to convince that he is "not like one of them". When in fact he is EXACTLY one of them in every aspect. He's a right wing libertarian tory with a gimmick..."Europe", that bundles a package of resentment.

When the ballon is pricked. ..

[MrGongGong]

Trust the people to answer the clear question.

Suppose you think most people aren't as clever as you and not capable of voting.

:laugh:

I'm not capable of being a surgeon
or deciding complex things like economics
what makes people think that asking lots of people things means you get a better result ?

It's not a "clear" question though is it ?
It's more a question of "belief"
personally i'm not so keen on those who think the only thing to take into account is profit and national interest deciding what happens in the world.
But what do I know? I'm just a humble noisemerchant

If we had an intelligent voting system

People with A levels would get 2 votes
People with a Degree (before 1989) would get 3
Phd would give you 4
and David Attenborough would get 10 votes

[MrGongGong]

Because its not about rationality but Farage's ability to convince that he is "not like one of them". When in fact he is EXACTLY one of them in every aspect. He's a right wing libertarian tory with a gimmick..."Europe", that bundles a package of resentment.

When the ballon is pricked. ..

"Prick" being the operative word ? :ok:

[James Wonnacott]

Well, at the tender age of 19 I DID know the meaning of community and I could plainly see that it would end up as a bureaucratic monster so the first vote I ever cast was a resounding NO.
I was against it then and I've been against it ever since.

[James Wonnacott]

Interestingly my wife, who is Russian and spent the first 30 years of her life living under communism, says that what we have now in the eu is not so different.

[Ariosto]

:laugh:

I'm not capable of being a surgeon
or deciding complex things like economics
what makes people think that asking lots of people things means you get a better result ?

It's not a "clear" question though is it ?
It's more a question of "belief"
personally i'm not so keen on those who think the only thing to take into account is profit and national interest deciding what happens in the world.
But what do I know? I'm just a humble noisemerchant

If we had an intelligent voting system

People with A levels would get 2 votes
People with a Degree (before 1989) would get 3
Phd would give you 4
and David Attenborough would get 10 votes

And the late Tony Benn should then get 250 votes!

But I'm working class so I would get no votes.