Clegg V Farage

[french frank]

I won't go on, but unless History is taught in a way that asks students to fundamentally challenge assumptions about how things work, have worked, and why events occur, it amounts something close to a kind of brainwashing , IMO, because the Status quo doesn't get challenged.

I'm not sure that that's the right target. Is History about 'teaching pupils to challenge the status quo'? What status quo? Brainwashing might be teaching that the peasants in the Peasants' Revolt were the rabble who had to be kept down and know their place. French Rev ditto.

Children in secondary school are taught History from age 11 - do they spend all the time now being 'brainwashed' about the British Empire, the two World Wars and the Blessed Margaret? Or the overthrow of the Tsar in Russia, the rise of communism and the Blessed Tony? None of it with any background as to why such things occurred. Or biased explanations as to why they occurred.

Just asking, as it's been a long time since I was brainwashed by either side in my history lessons. We didn't study any modern history so there were no moral lessons. - it may be a constant shifting battle between opposing world views for aught I know.

[MrGongGong]

Now, those topics that there might be some disagreement about, we can leave to the expert educationalists, like Gove ).

He knows fuck all mate

Of course there can be a consensus about "basic stuff"

There isn't
and I don't think there can in a meaningful way

You seem to be suggesting that the "nanny state" teaches people about "Basic stuff like hygiene, don't hit people, how to cross the road, how to eat and drink things, how to use money and so on" ..........blimey I didn't have you down as the Howard Kirk of the kippers.

[Beef Oven!]

He knows fuck all mate



There isn't
and I don't think there can in a meaningful way

You seem to be suggesting that the "nanny state" teaches people about "Basic stuff like hygiene, don't hit people, how to cross the road, how to eat and drink things, how to use money and so on" ..........blimey I didn't have you down as the Howard Kirk of the kippers.

Kippers again. You can't stop going on about Nige. Btw, great Party Political Broadcast on behalf of the UKIP on channel 4 this evening. C4 and the Snu newspaper must've seen the future of rock 'n' roll.

[MrGongGong]

Kippers again. You can't stop going on about Nige. .

I never mentioned the twat in chief
but I guess he is all they have now that old Bloomsday Bigot has gorne
or maybe they will try and get Kilroy back ?

[Beef Oven!]

maybe they will try and get Kilroy back ?

Not while Nige is riding so high. Can't believe C4, The Sun and others are backing Nige.

How can C4 get away with such a blatant party political broadcast, dressed up as documentary on 'The Real Nigel Farage'?

[Serial_Apologist]

Not while Nige is riding so high. Can't believe C4, The Sun and others are backing Nige.

How can C4 get away with such a blatant party political broadcast, dressed up as documentary on 'The Real Nigel Farage'?

I wondered the selfsame thing - the reporter ended that programme just about inserted up Farage's backside.

[MrGongGong]

Not while Nige is riding so high. Can't believe C4, The Sun and others are backing Nige.

So is the nice mr Putin I see :-(

So who else do they have who is able to contain their rage for long enough?
eeeeeeeerm ?

Skeletons out chaps

I'm still puzzled why you are taken in by it all ......... bonkers beyond belief

[Beef Oven!]

So is the nice mr Putin I see :-(

So who else do they have who is able to contain their rage for long enough?
eeeeeeeerm ?

Skeletons out chaps

I'm still puzzled why you are taken in by it all ......... bonkers beyond belief

And I'm puzzled as to why a Howard Kirk acolyte such as yourself, seeks to have the state intervene in every aspect of our lives.

[MrGongGong]

And I'm puzzled as to why a Howard Kirk acolyte such as yourself, seeks to have the state intervene in every aspect of our lives.

Ha Ha Ha

Where on earth did you get that idea?
You really have fallen for the "common sense" nonsense

Milk=good
Orange juice=good
Milk & Orange juice = double good

[Serial_Apologist]

Milk=good
Orange juice=good
Milk & Orange juice = double good

and as for vegetables, we are told...

http://www.vimeo.com/40086531

[MrGongGong]

and the latest instalment

"join the people's army and topple the establishment that got us into this mess".

HA HA HA HA

said the man who IS the "establishment"
man of the people commodities trader my arse

[Ariosto]

Personally I thought Farage won hand s down tonight. Clegg came over as stupid, and all that hand waving towards the end made him look like a young woman who had lost her knickers in public, and did not know what to do!

[MrGongGong]

Personally I thought Farage won hand s down tonight.

But he (like all of them) told a pack of lies.
Can't people see through the "man of the people" nonsense ?
What was more shocking was that I discovered that i'm OLDER than he is :YIKES:
Never trust a man in a suit ............ especially someone who just makes things up to suit his own daft paranoid obsessions.

[Beef Oven!]

Personally I thought Farage won hand s down tonight. Clegg came over as stupid.....

67% of the polls agree with you!

Nigel's really rocking!

[MrGongGong]

Nigel's really rocking!

backwards and forwards staring at the wall in a straightjacket