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  • french frank
    Administrator/Moderator
    • Feb 2007
    • 30764

    #16
    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
    I'm completely mystified about this gesture & why it's deemed ant-semitic. In my dictionary quenelles are small dumplinks made of fish or meat, simmered in water.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-maga...nitor-25550581
    It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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    • MrGongGong
      Full Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 18357

      #17
      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
      I haven't misunderstood you, then.
      yes you have
      You haven't been doing the literacy course, have you ?

      I said

      racism is unacceptable full stop.

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      • Flosshilde
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 7988

        #18
        ""I think it's likely to be more complex than just being associated with the far right," says Jim Shields of Aston University, an expert on the French far right, because Dieudonne has been involved with anti-racist left-wing activists as well as far-right activists. "At the moment, the use of this gesture seems too diffuse to fit any simple right-left interpretation.""

        & "It is the trademark of the hugely controversial French comedian Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala, who once said he would like to put a quenelle - a rugby-ball-shaped serving of fish or meat paste - up the backside of Zionists. "

        so, again, anti-Zionist comments are being called anti-semitic, which they aren't.

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        • MrGongGong
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 18357

          #19
          Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post

          so, again, anti-Zionist comments are being called anti-semitic, which they aren't.
          :thumb:

          BUT
          I think the comedian in question is a probably a bit iffy

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          • Beef Oven!
            Ex-member
            • Sep 2013
            • 18147

            #20
            Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
            yes you have
            You haven't been doing the literacy course, have you ?

            I said
            You're back-peddling. Fair enough.

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            • Beef Oven!
              Ex-member
              • Sep 2013
              • 18147

              #21
              Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
              :thumb:

              BUT
              I think the comedian in question is a probably a bit iffy
              Help each other, you might get there eventually.

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                #22
                Oh, I got there a long time ago. Perhaps your hero's friends might catch up eventually?

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                  You're back-peddling. Fair enough.
                  FFS

                  Racism is unacceptable wherever
                  which is what I said

                  (though some people seem to think it's OK .............
                  you should be careful who you choose as friends )

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                    Oh, I got there a long time ago. Perhaps your hero's friends might catch up eventually?
                    Who's my hero then, Flossie?

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                    • Beef Oven!
                      Ex-member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 18147

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                      FFS

                      Racism is unacceptable wherever
                      which is what I said
                      Well, it's what your saying now. Had to be led to it, didn't you?

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                      • MrGongGong
                        Full Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 18357

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                        Well, it's what your saying now. Had to be led to it, didn't you?
                        Errrr
                        NOT at all

                        I just don't have any time for football
                        it bores me rigid

                        You been on the "i'm a knob" juice again ?

                        I had no idea who this person was
                        I don't know anything about football
                        but the idea that somehow it attracts racist twats is a bit of a
                        "no shit Sherlock" moment

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                        • Beef Oven!
                          Ex-member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 18147

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MrGongGong View Post
                          I don't know anything about football
                          It's not about football. I thought you and your pals were getting there, but I was wrong.

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                          • MrGongGong
                            Full Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 18357

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                            It's not about football. I thought you and your pals were getting there, but I was wrong.
                            Yes, you are being a knob

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                            • teamsaint
                              Full Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 25279

                              #29
                              I thought the thread was about employment contracts. (which affects us all).

                              But apparently its about how football attracts racists, and is full of violent tendencies.

                              Unlike music.
                              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.

                              I am not a number, I am a free man.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30764

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                                Seems odd that the club deemed his public statement a fundamental breach of conduct, but not his quenelle gesture.
                                Is that quite accurate? The sacking was, according to that story, for both offences:

                                "The club is sacking him for his conduct that day and his social media outburst." The FA had already suspended him for 5 matches, fined him £80,000 and ordered him to attend an education course. The club suspended him and, in addition, wanted him to apologise.

                                So you could say that it wasn't two different offences and two different punishments; more that his refusal to accept the terms of his original punishment - which he publicised in the tweet - resulted in his sacking. No? I don't understand the workings of football disciplinary measures.
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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