Not like the rest at all ?

[teamsaint]

I think it's because the Greens - whatever they, or some of them think - in order for their policies to be implemented, would take a huge challenge to the capitalist order, one which the ruling class would rather bring the whole Earth to the point of human uninhabitability than risk forfeiting their privileges and power to decide the fate of life on our planet.

As long as the state does its job of keeping an eye on dissent and their mates in the press and media in general are on-side by keeping schtum people won't be thinking about the Green Party, or equally unmentionable demonstrations such as last Saturday's here in London which, by the way, does appear to have attracted some 50,000, contrary to what I said.

well that is what I would have said, more or less.

I don't think that just examining the visible mechanisms of control (Ofcom etc) is enough, although it is of course important.

[MrGongGong]

hummmmmm HA HA HA HA HA phgyfwqkuyfeuiquwyfifw

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/07/30/ukip-jake-baynes-occult_n_5633145.html?utm_hp_ref=uk

[Beef Oven!]

hummmmmm HA HA HA HA HA phgyfwqkuyfeuiquwyfifw

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

The occult thang is just a smokescreen. Actually, the higher echelon of the UKIP is entirely lizard.

Now go back to your constituencies and prepare for government.

[amateur51]

hummmmmm HA HA HA HA HA phgyfwqkuyfeuiquwyfifw

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

Just had an epiphany about Mr Farage in that photo, innit

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1537819/Archie-back-on-the-stage-after-40-years.html

[jean]

Ukip has a prescribed list which states that no one who has been a member of the BNP or the English Defence League should be a member, he explained, but "when they sat down and wrote out the prescribed list, they wouldn't have thought to put occultists down."

If they really mean prescribed rather than proscribed, no wonder they're having problems.

[ahinton]

The occult thang is just a smokescreen. Actually, the higher echelon of the UKIP is entirely lizard.

Now go back to your constituencies and prepare for government.

The inclusion of "The Tucker's" in this piece suggests that comment on it might better be posted on the pedantry thread.

The true meaning of the famous and now widely derided old quote "now go back to your constituencies and prepare for government" has never been much appreciated, namely "now go back to your constituencies and prepare for another party's government".

Anyway, welcome back, M. Leboeuf!

[Serial_Apologist]

hummmmmm HA HA HA HA HA phgyfwqkuyfeuiquwyfifw

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?utm_hp_ref=uk

Is that Wilhelm or Steve Reiki, I wonder.

One should be told, at the minimalist. Sorry for any repetition.

[MrGongGong]

Is that Wilhelm or Steve Reiki, I wonder.

One should be told, at the minimalist. Sorry for any repetition.

In the afternoon ?
With a bit of Kate Bush, The Orb or Hawkwind ?

[aeolium]

I wonder if after the latest by-election results (following on from the Euro election and local election results), people are starting to take UKIP seriously as a political party and - whatever they think of their politics, Farage, etc - trying to comprehend why they are taking so many votes away from the established parties, rather than simply dismissing them as fruitcakes or kippers or any other foodstuff of choice. We have two threads currently discussing what the Libdems promised, could have done, should/shouldn't have done etc, yet it seems to me that the Libdems for whatever reasons are now a peripheral party (or will be at the coming General Election) while UKIP are very much not. There must be plenty of seats where incumbent Tory, Labour and Libdem MPs are going to be under threat from UKIP - not perhaps in London or Scotland where UKIP don't have so much of a following, but in most other parts of the country. So are people here worried? Do they have any explanations for UKIP's appeal? And what could be done to counter it? The rubbishing and jokes clearly haven't worked.

[french frank]

But what of long term? Think of the massive swings with which the SDP started winning by-elections through the 1980s - an entirely new party doing extraordinarily well because it had some well-known faces and people were fed up with the existing parties, but by-election swings don't automatically lead to General Election seats. Then fastwind 30 years and ..? Loyalty to sitting MPs would probably surprise those who think all politicians are rogues ... the sitting MP has a headstart as well as the 'following wind' of the current UKIP bandwagon.

[MrGongGong]

Best comment i've seen is

Right. Just to get this clear - they've voted the sitting Tory MP back in and those voters apparently think they are being anti establishment?
That's even worse than thinking a party fronted by a public school boy who's dad got him a job in the city and has worked for an MP for years and years is against the elite.

Same old shit

[Flosshilde]

I'm looking forward to the SNP being the third largest party in Westminster after next May. That will put the cat amongst the pigeons! They're already the third largest party in the UK in terms of membership since the referendum.

[P. G. Tipps]

Though both results are depressing I think there was an obvious 'special factor' in Clacton (popular local MP ) and a likely 'protest vote' in Heywood.

Carswell's election speech was more like that of a 'one-nation' Tory like Ken Clarke and Matthew Parris said this morning on the radio that he already sounds uncomfortably nervous in his new party! Maybe a bit early for that, but Carswell certainly seems to have dumbed himself down politically for short-term gain and is likely to regret it later on, though he may well retain his seat at the next General Election.

Too soon for panic, but the large numbers who now seem prepared to vote, for whatever reason, for an extremely eccentric and potentially dangerous group like UKIP is certainly worrying.

[amateur51]

I'm looking forward to the SNP being the third largest party in Westminster after next May. That will put the cat amongst the pigeons! They're already the third largest party in the UK in terms of membership since the referendum.

Keep it stirring Flossie.:cacklethingy:

[amateur51]

Though both results are depressing I think there was an obvious 'special factor' in Clacton (popular local MP ) and a likely 'protest vote' in Heywood.

Carswell's election speech was more like that of a 'one-nation' Tory like Ken Clarke and Matthew Parris said this morning on the radio that he already sounds uncomfortably nervous in his new party! Maybe a bit early for that, but Carswell certainly seems to have dumbed himself down politically for short-term gain and is likely to regret it later on, though he may well retain his seat at the next General Election.

Too soon for panic, but the large numbers who now seem prepared to vote, for whatever reason, for an extremely eccentric and potentially dangerous group like UKIP is certainly worrying.

You've guided me so well in the past scotty - this result- is it illusory or reality?

Just wanting to be sure.