Not like the rest at all ?

[Richard Barrett]

Charismatic? Plenty of people like him and vote for him. He may not appeal to me and you, but the votes tell another story I think.

9% of the electorate isn't really "plenty", is it?

[Richard Barrett]

Surely economic fear is a strong underlying factor in the fear of immigration?

On the part of voters, yes, because they've been lied to about the economic impact of immigration. Farage on the other hand says he thinks the "social" aspect is more important than the economic (see above). In other words he just doesn't like having foreigners around.

[teamsaint]

9% of the electorate isn't really "plenty", is it?

Well that kind of depends which way you look at it.
It is certainly enough to worry other people.
9 % might be enough for them to become a junior coalition partner, in the right circumstances. (Although this isn't going to happen short term, because of the electoral system). It has got them a lot of MEPs. In plenty of areas they are running well above 9 %.

The lib dems, serious players, have often been around that figure. i dont actually think they are a threat to the big 3 parties, but anybody who gets that kind of support has done better than most.
In my personal experience, there are plenty of folk who would have them as a second preference to the tories, which supports Jeans "move to the right" point.

[Beef Oven!]

And I don't really see how that individual could be described as "charismatic".

But Stalin, you can?

I can describe Stalin as charismatic. And I do.

[jean]

Both Stalin and Farage have popular appeal.

Whether you call this appeal charisma or something else probably depends on how susceptible you are to it, in either case.

[Beef Oven!]

Both Stalin and Farage have popular appeal.

Whether you call this appeal charisma or something else probably depends on how susceptible you are to it, in either case.

Re: Stalin

Most common or garden leadership models identify 7 leadership styles: charismatic, participative, situational, transactional, transformational, servant and quiet leadership. Stalin is often identified as an example of a Charismatic leader, alongside people like Maria Thersea, Adolf Hitler, Mustafa Kemal, Winston churchill, et al.

[Richard Barrett]

Most common or garden leadership models identify 7 leadership styles: charismatic, participative, situational, transactional, transformational, servant and quiet leadership.

What's a "common or garden leadership model"? - is there a whole science of bossing people around? Amazing what you learn on the interwebs.

[teamsaint]

What's a "common or garden leadership model"? - is there a whole science of bossing people around? Amazing what you learn on the interwebs.

almost certainly.

plenty of practical examples in the businesses I have worked in.

An MBA probably covers the basics.

[jean]

Most common or garden leadership models identify 7 leadership styles: charismatic, participative, situational, transactional, transformational, servant and quiet leadership. Stalin is often identified as an example of a Charismatic leader, alongside people like Maria Thersea, Adolf Hitler, Mustafa Kemal, Winston churchill, et al.

Which style would you think most fits Farage?

[Flosshilde]

i dont actually believe the scenario I suggest, but I wouldnt rule out the possibility of it, or something like it.

Not so much a conspiracy theory, more like paranoia?

[Flosshilde]

An MBA probably covers the basics.

MBAs don't cover much of what happens in the real world, & then people who acquire them try & force the real world to fit the theories.

[teamsaint]

Not so much a conspiracy theory, more like paranoia?

yes, if you say so.
happy?

[Beef Oven!]

Which style would you think most fits Farage?

I'm not keen on all this stuff, but you since ask, I'd say he fits the charismatic style rather than anything else.

[Beef Oven!]

What's a "common or garden leadership model"? - is there a whole science of bossing people around? Amazing what you learn on the interwebs.

The sort of basic models of leadership that are covered in MBAs and the like. Organisational studies, that sort of thing. Happily, I got through all that drivel before the 'interwebs' were invented. But, hey, if 'interwebs' are your cup of tea, fill yer boots (excuse the mixed-mataphors).

[Beef Oven!]

MBAs don't cover much of what happens in the real world, & then people who acquire them try & force the real world to fit the theories.

MBAs cover a lot of what happens in the real world and the learning is very applicable to real-life situations.