Not like the rest at all ?

[french frank]

Or health provision

or education

or transport

or housing

or anything really.

Yes, it surely isn't hefty taxation that's the problem, it's how the taxes are spent and who's paying them.

[MrGongGong]

Did I suggest that withdrawing public subsidy of the arts was a good thing?

Many people are suggesting this
even Raymond Gubbay is a passionate advocate of subsidy

[teamsaint]

but it was made to look like I was suggesting it.


which I wasn't.

[Beef Oven!]

Or health provision

or education

or transport

or housing

or anything really.

Health, education, transport, utilities & energy, defence, a healthy culture funding and a welfare safety net to get people back on their feet if they fall on hard times or are unable to take care of their own affairs, should all be handled by the state on behalf of the tax-payer.

And then, nothing really.

[Beef Oven!]

but it was made to look like I was suggesting it.


which I wasn't.

It's the usual lefty tactic.

[jean]

What does UKIP include in a healthy culture funding?

It's the lack of detailed proposals that is so troubling.

[Beef Oven!]

Yes, it surely isn't hefty taxation that's the problem, it's how the taxes are spent and who's paying them.

Hefty taxation is a problem. Idle hands and the devil's work, and all that.

[Beef Oven!]

What does UKIP include in a healthy culture funding?

It's the lack of detailed proposals that is so troubling.

Why ask me? I'm way down the in the UKIP expert pecking order in this forum. I just believe in general terms that 'culture' is something that should be supported by the state.

[Beef Oven!]

It's the lack of detailed proposals that is so troubling.

No it's not, that's just an excuse. You just don't like the UKIP full-stop. And that's fine, it is a free country, after all.

[Flosshilde]

Health, education, transport, utilities & energy, defence, a healthy culture funding and a welfare safety net to get people back on their feet if they fall on hard times or are unable to take care of their own affairs, should all be handled by the state on behalf of the tax-payer.

And then, nothing really.

If you cover that lot there isn't anything else, is there?

[Flosshilde]

It's the usual lefty tactic.

I thought that teamsaint is a 'lefty'.

[jean]

Why ask me? I'm way down the in the UKIP expert pecking order in this forum. I just believe in general terms that 'culture' is something that should be supported by the state.

Well yes, but does your favoured party think so too?

[Beef Oven!]

I thought that teamsaint is a 'lefty'.

That is immaterial, he was the victim of a nasty lefty trick.

[jean]

No it's not, that's just an excuse. You just don't like the UKIP full-stop. And that's fine, it is a free country, after all.

I don't like them because the only policies they have set out so far are simplistically xenophobic.

But the lack of detailed proposals from any party is troubling. I was quite impressed by Beppe Grillo's Cinque Stelle and their anti-political-establishment stance, but now I see they're joining that ragbag group of MEPs that Farage has put together, and I am...troubled.

[Beef Oven!]

If you cover that lot there isn't anything else, is there?

No, I can't think of much else. That must be it. That's twice we've agreed on a political matter in a week, which is very good news for you, but deeply worrying for me.