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  • Serial_Apologist
    Full Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 37886

    Originally posted by ahinton View Post
    Indeed - and that's only education. What about health, transport, social security, employment and all the rest?
    Let's have a guess or two.

    Health: a packet of fags and a free pint hour to be government-subsidised in all UK pubs

    Transport: the local lord of the manor's 1950s Land Rover on offer to pensioners needing hospital - dial this number.

    Social Security: available only to British passport residents of 50 years standing in this country, with the exception of WW2 veterans.

    Employment: jobs for the boys.

    And all the rest: is there more?
    Last edited by Serial_Apologist; 02-06-14, 13:46.

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    • amateur51

      I do hope that the good burghers of Newark are putting some serious process and policy questions to the UKIP candidate.

      If they do I imagine that the air will be full of tyres, as the wheels come flying off.

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      • ahinton
        Full Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 16123

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Let's have a guess or two.

        Health: a packet of fags and a free pint hour to be government-subsidised in all UK pubs
        But will the lower taxpaying British public be abvle to afford to subsidise this?

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Transport: the local lord of the manor's 1950s Land Rover on offer to pensioners needing hospital - dial this number.
        A premium rate 090* number, presumably...

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Social Security: available only to British passport residents of 50 years standing in this country, with the exception of WW2 veterans.
        So nothing at all for the under 50s, then? (and even Nigella Garage is only just 50) - and none at all for WWII veterans, especially all those furriners who fought on the British side during that battle...

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        Employment: jobs for the boys.
        So none for the girls, then? Surely UKIP wouldn't risk looking like certain allegedly "Islamic" extremists who deprecate education and jobs for women?...

        Originally posted by Serial_Apologist View Post
        And all the rest: is there more?
        There Pygmalionly well ought to be!

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        • Flosshilde
          Full Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 7988

          Nice little piece from Peter Kellner in today's Guardian -

          Peter Kellner: If Nigel Farage's party wins Newark it will be a game changer. But our polling suggests its support has actually faded in the past five years

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          • MrGongGong
            Full Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 18357

            This might be useful if you use Chrome

            Replaces images of Nigel Farage or UKIP with kittens. Because kittens > UKIP.

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            • MrGongGong
              Full Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 18357

              Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
              Nice little piece from Peter Kellner in today's Guardian -

              http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-farage-newark
              I liked this comment

              I saw Farage drinking a pint. This PROVES that he is a totally normal bloke and knows exactly what the working man of the UK wants. One thing he definitely isn't is one of those privately educated, ex financial services, egotistical politicians types.

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              • Flosshilde
                Full Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 7988

                Reading the 'comments' is fatal - before you know it you've lost another few hours from your life doing nothing.

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                • MrGongGong
                  Full Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 18357

                  Originally posted by Flosshilde View Post
                  Reading the 'comments' is fatal - before you know it you've lost another few hours from your life doing nothing.
                  I feel the same about Brahms :-) (JOKE )

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                  • Beef Oven!
                    Ex-member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 18147

                    Conservative majority cut-down by more than 50%
                    UKIP poll over 10,000
                    Labour keep up there anonymous presence
                    LibDems are finished as an electoral force.

                    The UKIP, as the MrGG implies with his OP question, are not like the rest at all!!!! - vive la différence!!!!!
                    The earthquake continues.

                    The Conservatives see off a challenge from UKIP to win the Newark by-election with a majority of more than 7,000.

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                    • french frank
                      Administrator/Moderator
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 30537

                      Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                      Conservative majority cut-down by more than 50%
                      UKIP poll over 10,000 ...
                      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27711254
                      On the other hand, keeping 85% of their Euro vote [N. Farage] in one by-election constituency, may not be enough to cause an earthquake throughout the whole country in a General Election.

                      As for UKIP v Lib Dems - remember Barabbas? :-)
                      It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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                      • jean
                        Late member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 7100

                        LibDems again beaten by Greens (though not by much, admittedly.)

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                        • ahinton
                          Full Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 16123

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          Conservative majority cut-down by more than 50%
                          UKIP poll over 10,000
                          Labour keep up there anonymous presence
                          LibDems are finished as an electoral force.
                          There can be little doubt that the LibDems are having one of their worst times in many years and, as the smaller of the current coalition partners, this is embarrassing as well as grave for the party. That said, however, we all know that by-election results are rarely a reliable indicator as to what will happen and te next General Election and my principal concern about UKIP here is that, if the LibDems somehow manage to get back on their feet, we could next May be in the kind of four-party situation that you've mentioned previousuly but this could well be one in which the Tories and Labour are the only two parties capable of securing an overall majority between them which, as that's hardly likely(!), will almost certainly result in a severe destabilising of British political landscape in which a majority government would technically seem possible only if UKIP, the Tories and the LibDems were prepared to create a three-party coalition - and how likely would that be?!

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          The UKIP, as the MrGG implies with his OP question, are not like the rest at all!!!! - vive la différence!!!!!
                          I think that we can all agree on that, but don't you dare go bringing yer froggy lingo onto our British shores; there's no excuse for that from a kipper, even on the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landings!

                          Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                          The earthquake continues.
                          It's all down to that global warming, innit!

                          Earthquakes, by the way, are not customarily discriminating in the damage that they do...
                          Last edited by ahinton; 06-06-14, 12:18.

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                          • Beef Oven!
                            Ex-member
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 18147

                            Originally posted by french frank View Post
                            On the other hand, keeping 85% of their Euro vote [N. Farage] in one by-election constituency, may not be enough to cause an earthquake throughout the whole country in a General Election.

                            As for UKIP v Lib Dems - remember Barabbas? :-)
                            I think you're losing your deposit.

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                            • Richard Barrett

                              Originally posted by Beef Oven! View Post
                              Conservative majority cut-down by more than 50%
                              UKIP poll over 10,000
                              Labour keep up there anonymous presence
                              LibDems are finished as an electoral force.
                              You are crowing about the rise in support for a party which basically wishes to take all the harmful things that governments since Thatcher have done and crank them up further. I don't understand why an intelligent person would do that; for one thing you and the majority of inhabitants of the UK don't stand to benefit in any way from what they would do if elected to government. Apart from which: is there anything at all in what passes for their programme that makes them look like an answer to the moral and political bankruptcy of the major parties, rather than like yet another morbid symptom of it? And: what does it mean to be proud of the number of votes cast for an individual (Helmer) whose knuckle-dragging views on rape, homosexuality and climate change belong in Speakers' Corner, not serious national debate?
                              Last edited by Guest; 07-06-14, 08:16.

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                              • french frank
                                Administrator/Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 30537

                                Interesting point that came up in the Guardian piece is that as UKIP has become more popular, it has also become more unpopular. The reason why the Tories, against the normal odds, held on to the seat quite comfortably and Labour were so far away from retaking it (and, in part, anyway, why the Lib Dems were annihilated): Tories were seen to be the most likely winners (because they had held the seat before) and The Rest combined to vote for them tactically to keep UKIP out: Anyone But Them. Mr Farage might find that poses an obstacle to further advancement.

                                What amazes me is that so many millions of our fellow citizens are unemployed because of all the hordes of foreigners that have swarmed in and taken all the jobs; and that so many millions have had their lives irrevocably scarred by the mounds of EU legislation imposed on them ............ Or is it just that they read the Daily Express and Daily Mail?
                                It isn't given us to know those rare moments when people are wide open and the lightest touch can wither or heal. A moment too late and we can never reach them any more in this world.

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