Not like the rest at all ?

[Beef Oven!]

Hummm

Without an example to give a context its a bit hard to discuss the concept

There are obvious limits to what the state should do
but what do YOU mean when you use the phrase "nanny state" ?
Do you think that we should let children starve because their parents make "bad choices" ?

The irony is often that those who complain about these things are often the most centralising and controlling of all
those on the "right" who want to tell women what clothes they are allowed to wear for example.

More straw man arguments? - get your head around this and then we'll talk.

[MrGongGong]

More straw man arguments? - get your head around this and then we'll talk.

Get of your high horse matey
I asked a simple question about what YOU mean by "Nanny State"
and you came back with a "guess what's on the teachers mind?" response

Guess what?
I failed O level mind reading

Simple question
WHAT do YOU mean ?
Not what can you find on the internet

[Beef Oven!]

Get of your high horse matey
I asked a simple question about what YOU mean by "Nanny State"
and you came back with a "guess what's on the teachers mind?" response

Guess what?
I failed O level mind reading

Simple question
WHAT do YOU mean ?
Not what can you find on the internet

You know what is meant by a nanny state, stop being an arse.

[MrGongGong]

You know what is meant by a nanny state, stop being an arse.

No, I don't know what YOU mean
When the NPME talks about "Music" it sometimes means the same thing as what I mean and sometimes I mean something else

SO go on, give me an example

[french frank]

SO go on, give me an example

Perhaps this would be a starting point?

[Beef Oven!]

Perhaps this would be a starting point?

GongGong has already done the children starving to death one.

How else would people respond to that sort of line? I'd say the same. In fact I do agree with the state intervening here. It's more about how they intervene.

On that basis we needn't have a referendum on the EU, just come out now!

[MrGongGong]

GongGong has already done the children starving to death one.

How else would people respond to that sort of line? I'd say the same. In fact I do agree with the state intervening here. It's more about how they intervene.

On that basis we needn't have a referendum on the EU, just come out now!

Can you rephrase that in English please ?????

[french frank]

How else would people respond to that sort of line? I'd say the same. In fact I do agree with the state intervening here. It's more about how they intervene.

I think you do need to clarify what you see as the difference between 'the government taking action' on these various aspects of people's lives and 'how they do it'. Examples?

[MrGongGong]

I think you do need to clarify what you see as the difference between 'the government taking action' on these various aspects of people's lives and 'how they do it'. Examples?

You failed your mind reading O level as well then ?

[Flosshilde]

I think you do need to clarify what you see as the difference between 'the government taking action' on these various aspects of people's lives and 'how they do it'. Examples?

BO doesn't do 'examples' - he never supports his claims with evidence. It's a waste of time asking.

[Beef Oven!]

I think you do need to clarify what you see as the difference between 'the government taking action' on these various aspects of people's lives and 'how they do it'. Examples?

I'm reluctant to give examples because we will have a bun-fight about the example itself, and ignore the higher-level political-philosophical question. Come on ff, you know how it goes in here.

[jean]

Do you really think there's any point in discussing any sort of political-philosophical question without also considering the effect your answers might have in the real world?

[MrGongGong]

I'm reluctant to give examples because we will have a bun-fight about the example itself, and ignore the higher-level political-philosophical question. Come on ff, you know how it goes in here.

"Higher-level" .......... my arse

How about using the well trodden "Constellations" theory that Adorno was fond of ?
If the thing is destroyed by direct reference use triangulation and so on

I'm still in the dark about what YOU mean by the phrase "nanny state" ??????

[Beef Oven!]

Do you really think there's any point in discussing any sort of political-philosophical question without also considering the effect your answers might have in the real world?

This discussion is supposed to be doing just that.

[Beef Oven!]

"Higher-level" .......... my arse

How about using the well trodden "Constellations" theory that Adorno was fond of ?
If the thing is destroyed by direct reference use triangulation and so on

I'm still in the dark about what YOU mean by the phrase "nanny state" ??????

Google it, that's how you get most of your information, so you tell us (not like it don't show, or nuffin')