Not like the rest at all ?

[MrGongGong]

And let's not forget about world peace and staying away from other people's business!

You mean giving gay people the same rights as heterosexuals ?
Spot on brother

[amateur51]

You mean giving gay people the same rights as heterosexuals ?
Spot on brother

There's still not being allowed to be a blood donor to go y'know

[Beef Oven!]

You mean giving gay people the same rights as heterosexuals ?
Spot on brother

Absolutely. But giving rights to people doesn't necessarily mean you have to treat people as if they are the exactly same. This becomes obvious when people are not the same, but equal, as per the SSM question.

[amateur51]

Absolutely. But giving rights to people doesn't necessarily mean you have to treat people as if they are the exactly same. This becomes obvious when people are not the same, but equal.

What differences did you have in mind?

[MrGongGong]

Can we have an example of the "nanny state" ?

[Beef Oven!]

Can we have an example of the "nanny state" ?

There you go. Even your brain has been addled by the nanny state - you can't even think for yourself!

Work it out sunshine, we're tripping over examples!

[MrGongGong]

There you go. Even your brain has been addled by the nanny state - you can't even think for yourself!

Work it out sunshine, we're tripping over examples!

Its not a phrase I use
So I was wondering what you meant ?

[Beef Oven!]

Its not a phrase I use
So I was wondering what you meant ?

It's about how far we believe the state should involve itself in the lives of its citizens, and what that involvement should be, when it's agreed the state needs to be involved.

[Flosshilde]

Absolutely. But giving rights to people doesn't necessarily mean you have to treat people as if they are the exactly same. This becomes obvious when people are not the same, but equal, as per the SSM question.

So appartheid was a good thing, then?

[Flosshilde]

natural human freedom.

What exactly (or even approximately) is this?

[MrGongGong]

It's about how far we believe the state should involve itself in the lives of its citizens, and what that involvement should be, when it's agreed the state needs to be involved.

An example ?

[Beef Oven!]

An example ?

Let's discuss the concept first. Where do you stand on it?

[Serial_Apologist]

An example ?

It's a good question. I'd probably snitch if I thought my neighbours had a bomb factory going, or were committing domestic abuse. Not if they were campaigning for a replacement as good as Bob Crow, or growing pot in their bathroom. But if they were playing Grand Funk Railroad or Snoopy Dogg at 2 am on full volume... <horror>

[Beef Oven!]

So appartheid was a good thing, then?

Not sure I understand why you think black and white people are not the same.

[MrGongGong]

Let's discuss the concept first. Where do stand on it?

Hummm

Without an example to give a context its a bit hard to discuss the concept

There are obvious limits to what the state should do
but what do YOU mean when you use the phrase "nanny state" ?
Do you think that we should let children starve because their parents make "bad choices" ?

The irony is often that those who complain about these things are often the most centralising and controlling of all
those on the "right" who want to tell women what clothes they are allowed to wear for example.