Not like the rest at all ?

[MrGongGong]

NF's comment was so tongue in cheek. But I don't think NF should have said what he said.

Given that he usually talks out of his arse i'm struggling to understand whether this is physiologically possible

[Beef Oven!]

Given that he usually talks out of his arse i'm struggling to understand whether this is physiologically possible

Nigel used to be a one-trick pony, like you.

[ahinton]

Nigel used to be a one-trick pony, like you.

No - he was (and appears largely to remain) a two-trick one (immigration is largely bad and UK's EU membership is even worse, as in), but where exactly is the "used to be" here?...

[MrGongGong]

Nigel used to be a one-trick pony, like you.

"Used to be"?????

Now he is just a pathological lying shit

to return to the start

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ukip-general-secretary-roger-bird-suspended-over-allegations-of-impropriety-9911433.html

I guess the Bulgarians made him do it (whatever it was/is ?)

[Richard Barrett]

I guess the Bulgarians made him do it

At least in groping a prospective parliamentary candidate he was true to the UKIP tradition of avoiding political correctness.

[MrGongGong]

Looking up a quote for another discussion I found the slippery kippers have changed their Education "policy"
it now has this

Raise standards by franchising state schools to private organisations, such as charitable trusts

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/oxymoron

How on earth does one "Raise standards" by giving control away to people who maybe have no idea at all about what the purpose of education is in the first place?

They also propose this

End support for multiculturalism and promote one shared British culture for all

Which I quite like as it might mean that OXOboys extensive collection of strange musics will be unacceptable and i'm first in the queue for the discarded Can collection (Not British) or even some of the Japanese electronica (NOT British)

[Beef Oven!]

Looking up a quote for another discussion I found the slippery kippers have changed their Education "policy"
it now has this

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/oxymoron

How on earth does one "Raise standards" by giving control away to people who maybe have no idea at all about what the purpose of education is in the first place?

They also propose this



Which I quite like as it might mean that OXOboys extensive collection of strange musics will be unacceptable and i'm first in the queue for the discarded Can collection (Not British) or even some of the Japanese electronica (NOT British)

I don't agree with all their policies - I'd like to know a little more about what they mean by 'end support for multiculturalism' (sounds a bit BNPish), but I'm all in favour of more buy-in to a shared civic national culture.

Regarding education, I'd like to see more grammar schools to help working class kids get up the ladder and not so much reliance on boxing and football.

If it goes belly-up for me, you don't want my Eliane Radigue, Daphne Oram, Laurie Anderson or Delia Derbyshire collections?!!!

[MrGongGong]

I don't agree with all their policies - I'd like to know a little more about what they mean by 'end support for multiculturalism' (sounds a bit BNPish), but I'm all in favour of more buy-in to a shared civic national culture.

Regarding education, I'd like to see more grammar schools to help working class kids get up the ladder and not so much reliance on boxing and football.

If it goes belly-up for me, you don't want my Eliane Radigue, Daphne Oram, Laurie Anderson or Delia Derbyshire collections?!!!

I'm having ALL your collection matey


Grammar schools DON'T help people "get up the ladder" (as you put it) the people who really HAVE done the research will tell you that this is a myth.
(Daniel Craig "failed" the 11 plus Andy and I "passed" who is further up your "ladder"?) the Kippers seem to have left this one out now.

sounds a bit BNPish

No way :HA HA HA:

I'd like to know a little more about what they mean by 'end support for multiculturalism'

So would I but i'm not holding my breath as I don't think whoever wrote this knows what they mean either

I'm all in favour of more buy-in to a shared civic national culture.

That sounds a bit Marxist to me old chum

[Richard Barrett]

what they mean by 'end support for multiculturalism' (sounds a bit BNPish)

Although they may not (on the surface at least) be a far-right party like the BNP, their core support certainly comes from a lot of the same sectors of society, so it's unsurprising that they should take that kind of line. UKIP MEPs were, furthermore, instructed by the party's leadership not to support a petition of MEPs to stop a package of funding to a grouping of European far-right parties including the BNP, the FN of France and Jobbik of Hungary. Their other links to European far-right parties have been brought up previously on this thread. So let's not get too faux-surprised when we catch a glimpse of the brown shirts in the back of their wardrobe.

[Richard Barrett]

... which is one among many possible answers to your

How so? How do you know this?

If any real power were to end up in the hands of Farage and his band of merry men it would be a disaster for the people of Britain.

[Beef Oven!]

Although they may not (on the surface at least) be a far-right party like the BNP, their core support certainly comes from a lot of the same sectors of society, so it's unsurprising that they should take that kind of line.

I share the concern about this, but how do you know this is the case?

UKIP MEPs were, furthermore, instructed by the party's leadership not to support a petition of MEPs to stop a package of funding to a grouping of European far-right parties including the BNP, the FN of France and Jobbik of Hungary. Their other links to European far-right parties have been brought up previously on this thread.

The shenanigans in the EU institutions don't worry me. If this sort of thing happened on the domestic front, that would be an entirely different matter.

So let's not get too faux-surprised when we catch a glimpse of the brown shirts in the back of their wardrobe.

Silly comment, no matter what the UKIP are, they are clearly not fascists.

[Richard Barrett]

no matter what the UKIP are, they are clearly not fascists.

Maybe not, but quite a few of their mates are.

[Beef Oven!]

Maybe not, but quite a few of their mates are.

What does that mean?

[MrGongGong]

Silly comment, no matter what the UKIP are, they are clearly not fascists.

I thought they were supposed to be a "peoples party" reflecting a wide spread a beliefs in the UK?
Which will include some who one might term "fascist".
When I hear Vox Pop interviews with folks who plan to vote Kipper they often say things about how they will "kick out" the immigrants, "stand up" for white people and so on. I'm sure that YOU and many of your chums aren't "fascists" BUT a large number of people will vote for the kippers because they do appeal to those who also have sympathies with the EDL, BNP etc

The shenanigans in the EU institutions don't worry me

They certainly will kick you out for saying that :HO HO HO: WITHOUT the scapegoat of the EU what else is there?

[Richard Barrett]

What does that mean?

It means for example their alliance in the European Parliament with Poland's "Congress of the New Right" which even Marine Le Pen wants nothing to do with. This has been discussed here earlier. Also UKIP has recently been endorsed by Nick Griffin, which has also been mentioned. Given the current implosion of the far right in the UK, which is to be welcomed of course, who are the fascists going to vote for? UKIP to a man, I would have thought.